The earth is flat?

[5StringBlues]

How do flatearthers explain the moon and ocean tides?

 

[Mr_Moo]

They tell us that heat rises … then how come when you go up in the mountains it gets cooler?

It's because the air gets thinner.

 

[Mr_Moo]

Physics is all pseudo-science to them.
“You only believe that because it’s what you’ve been taught your whole life. Ie, brainwashing”.

What’s most disturbing to me is that if they truly beilieve that all pictures of space are cgi, no one ever been to space, the earth is flat etc, then that must mean they think that all of the millions upon millions of people who have dedicated their lives to the pursuit of science, astro-physics and the like, are deluded and wasting their lives studying lies and false realities.

More fundamentally, the same pseudo-science which is fake when it comes to describing the cosmos, is real when it comes to designing the hardware and software needed to create the cgi.

Quantum physics tells us what the sun is. Quantum physics is bunkum.

Quantum physics lets us build transistors, thence microprocessors, thence computer hardware. Quantum physics is real.

Newtons laws of motion describe the movement of the planets. Newton's laws are fake.

Newton's laws of motion describe the motion of baseballs. Nuh uh, that's sport, not science.

General relativity explains the discrepancy between Newtonian mechanics and the orbit of Mercury. Relativity is a lie and you just admitted that Newton is wrong.

General relativity gives us the tools to build lasers, GPS and old school colour TVs. What? No, that's engineering, not physics.

 

[Mark Reccord]

They say it’s just a hologram.

In a facebook debate about the ISS where I said to my flat earther acquaintance that I have seen the ISS pass overhead with my own eyes, as predicted by the ISS tracker app and confirmed by the live feed from the ISS and have seen the actual shape of the thing through a telescope, he posted this as a counter:



tl;dw (or maybe it should be ts;dw, where "s" stands for stupid): "It's obviously a hologram."

More fundamentally, the same pseudo-science which is fake when it comes to describing the cosmos, is real when it comes to designing the hardware and software needed to create the cgi.

Quantum physics tells us what the sun is. Quantum physics is bunkum.

Quantum physics lets us build transistors, thence microprocessors, thence computer hardware. Quantum physics is real.

Newtons laws of motion describe the movement of the planets. Newton's laws are fake.

Newton's laws of motion describe the motion of baseballs. Nuh uh, that's sport, not science.

General relativity explains the discrepancy between Newtonian mechanics and the orbit of Mercury. Relativity is a lie and you just admitted that Newton is wrong.

General relativity gives us the tools to build lasers, GPS and old school colour TVs. What? No, that's engineering, not physics.

Yep. This is what I find most incongruous about it. The very technologies that allow to argue flat earth instantaneously with people half a world away come out of the same science that they claim is fake. I'm involved with electronics in the aviation industry so all of their plane memes and claims about navigation, GPS, and flight instruments make me crazy.

 

[Ric5]

It's because the air gets thinner.

How does air get thinner?

does it eat less?

 

[ofajen]

It’s a lot more work to actually learn all this stuff than it is to says it’s all fake and remain ignorant.

Otto

 

[metron]

Do you folks think that flat earthers genuinely believe their peddling? On average anyway? I have personally never engaged one in conversation, but I just assumed that a significant percent of them are some form of long trolls punking eggheads. There is no merit to the theory, so what's really going on here?

 

[GIBrat51]

I don't think - or worry - about these people, much. They'll all be gone fairly soon, anyway...

 

[GBBSbassist]

Do you folks think that flat earthers genuinely believe their peddling? On average anyway? I have personally never engaged one in conversation, but I just assumed that a significant percent of them are some form of long trolls punking eggheads. There is no merit to the theory, so what's really going on here?

I've never met one in person, or at least had the pleasure of discussing the shape of Earth with one, but I sort of assumed the same. I didn't really think they existed on the scale that some might think do. I sort of treated the statement of "Some people think the earth is flat!" as "Some kids are eating tide pods!". That just wasn't nearly as widespread as the media would have had you believe.

I did watch that entire video posted above and it was extremely frustrating and even insulting at some points, like when he was calling accomplished astronauts 'actornauts'. I'm not even very knowledgeable in science and math, and I was immediately rebutting all of their arguments in the video in my own head. So to answer your question, I do think people as stubborn as the guy in that video do absolutely believe what they're saying 100% and I doubt any amount of evidence would change what they believe, because at the end of the day, why would they change their way of thinking when they can just say "That's fake...".

 

[sigterm]

I've never met one in person, or at least had the pleasure of discussing the shape of Earth with one, but I sort of assumed the same. I didn't really think they existed on the scale that some might think do. I sort of treated the statement of "Some people think the earth is flat!" as "Some kids are eating tide pods!". That just wasn't nearly as widespread as the media would have had you believe.

I did watch that entire video posted above and it was extremely frustrating and even insulting at some points, like when he was calling accomplished astronauts 'actornauts'. I'm not even very knowledgeable in science and math, and I was immediately rebutting all of their arguments in the video in my own head. So to answer your question, I do think people as stubborn as the guy in that video do absolutely believe what they're saying 100% and I doubt any amount of evidence would change what they believe, because at the end of the day, why would they change their way of thinking when they can just say "That's fake...".

Now that there are gluten free pods there has probably been a rise in it now that the celiacs can safely join in the fun. I haven't seen any flat earth flyers on the board by the water cooler at work, but I haven't seen any sphere earth flyers either. I think there must therefore be a consensus around hollow earth.

 

[Jazz Ad]

In a facebook debate about the ISS where I said to my flat earther acquaintance that I have seen the ISS pass overhead with my own eyes, as predicted by the ISS tracker app and confirmed by the live feed from the ISS and have seen the actual shape of the thing through a telescope, he posted this as a counter

Good Lord. You know it's bad when I appeal to God. This guy is way, way out there.

 

[metron]

I've never met one in person, or at least had the pleasure of discussing the shape of Earth with one, but I sort of assumed the same. I didn't really think they existed on the scale that some might think do. I sort of treated the statement of "Some people think the earth is flat!" as "Some kids are eating tide pods!". That just wasn't nearly as widespread as the media would have had you believe.

I did watch that entire video posted above and it was extremely frustrating and even insulting at some points, like when he was calling accomplished astronauts 'actornauts'. I'm not even very knowledgeable in science and math, and I was immediately rebutting all of their arguments in the video in my own head. So to answer your question, I do think people as stubborn as the guy in that video do absolutely believe what they're saying 100% and I doubt any amount of evidence would change what they believe, because at the end of the day, why would they change their way of thinking when they can just say "That's fake...".

Thanks for that response. All this reminds me of a Simpsons Halloween episode from way back where all the advertisements in town were coming to life and destroying the town. Lisa figures out, with the help of Mr Paul Anka, that if you stop paying attention, they will wither away and die. Much the same here, in my opinion.

"Monsterssssssssssssss"

 

[Matthew_84]

I am sure it started out (recently anyway) as a troll theory, but I’d bet my ass that there are idiots out there now who genuinely believe in it and feel good about it because they don’t believe the “crap” told to them by the media, though they eat this literal crap up with a smile.

 

[joebar]

I am sure it started out (recently anyway) as a troll theory, but I’d bet my ass that there are idiots out there now who genuinely believe in it and feel good about it because they don’t believe the “crap” told to them by the media, though they eat this literal crap up with a smile.

My brother is one of them.
It’s so bad that I pretty much had to write him off relationally.
It’s really sad because he is an immensely gifted /genius level IQ person. But he’s also a very scarred person emotionally from his youth and never recovered.
He posts his beliefs/opinions/philosophies on social media about all these conspiracies and has alienated himself from anyone that matters.
As for myself, I couldn’t give a S**T if it’s round flat or square; it doesn’t change my life. But I am a free thinker.
I find the ‘captured rotation’ of the moon fascinating; it happens to spin on its axis exactly the same speed that the moon orbits the earth- and we never see the dark side of it. To me, that shows extreme clever design and not some random event. But for what, we dont Know.

 

[JRA]

...just now got here....the earth is flat?










the earth is flat! the earth is flat!

 

[Downunderwonder]

My brother is one of them.
It’s so bad that I pretty much had to write him off relationally.
It’s really sad because he is an immensely gifted /genius level IQ person. But he’s also a very scarred person emotionally from his youth and never recovered.
He posts his beliefs/opinions/philosophies on social media about all these conspiracies and has alienated himself from anyone that matters.
As for myself, I couldn’t give a S**T if it’s round flat or square; it doesn’t change my life. But I am a free thinker.
I find the ‘captured rotation’ of the moon fascinating; it happens to spin on its axis exactly the same speed that the moon orbits the earth- and we never see the dark side of it. To me, that shows extreme clever design and not some random event. But for what, we dont Know.

I am no astrophysicist but if there was a gravitational imbalance on the moon from a big asteroid it might make one side heavier enough to slow down its rotation as that side came closer to Earth more than it sped it up on the away side.

 

[HaphAsSard]

To me, that shows extreme clever design and not some random event. But for what, we dont Know.

I am basically illiterate in hard sciences, but there totally is an explanation for that. Not that I can grasp it, unfortunately:
Tidal locking - Wikipedia
The part of exoplanetology that studies possible candidates for life outside the solar system - the so-called Goldilocks zone around a star - looks for planets that aren't too far, because cold and likely to be gas giants, but also not too close because hot and also, precisely because of reduced distance, likely to be tidally locked with their sun, which would have enormous repercussions in their climate (assuming they can retain a dense enough atmosphere at all), with one face permanently exposed to the star. The twilight ring however may be colonisable, in theory.

 

[bluesblaster]

contrarians....the lot of 'em

seems like some weird joke that only they seem to find amusing.

 

[rendevouz]

Its a flat planet even possible?
You know theoretically speaking

 

[wesonbass]

If the earth were flat, carrots would poke right through the bottom