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#22
i like my sansamp paradriver

the midrange freq knob is great for dialing in that right frequency to fill up that hole when the guitars drop out.

and it has a handy blend switch to dial back in your bass to keep the lower end supported.

another trick is to use an octave pedal w/ a dirt pedal to again, fill in that hole in the upper mids.
 
#24
JimmyM said:
Absolutely brilliant answer, 100% correct on all counts! Look at all the great power trios in history...generally, the bassist did the same thing during the solos as the rest of the song.
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Well, though I play in cover bands, it's not to cover only three-piece bands. A lot of it is covering 4-piece dual-guitar lineups or recordings with overdubbed rhythm guitar during solos. So does it have to be either or 100% YOU MUST COMPLY? I do one sometimes, the other sometimes. I change it up. I have fun. Partly why I prefer three-pieces is that it opens up more turf for me if I care to take it. If I have effects I can use them, if I have some technique I can use that. I can open it up too. Variety, why I like music.

But I get the point, because if someone has to ask questions in a forum they probably haven't decided who they are going to be - they want others to tell them who to be. I don't.
 
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greenboy said:
Well, though I play in cover bands, it's not to cover only three-piece bands. A lot of it is covering 4-piece dual-guitar lineups or recordings with overdubbed rhythm guitar during solos. So does it have to be either or 100% YOU MUST COMPLY? I do one sometimes, the other sometimes. I change it up. I have fun. Partly why I prefer three-pieces is that it opens up more turf for me if I care to take it. If I have effects I can use them, if I have some technique I can use that. I can open it up too. Variety, why I like music.

But I get the point, because if someone has to ask questions in a forum they probably haven't decided who they are going to be - they want others to tell them who to be. I don't.
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Ya...I can dig it. But notice I used the word "generally." Also, the 3-pc bands I grew up on always overdubbed on albums so they were also trying to cover the same ground live you're trying to cover. Whatever works for you, works. But I was just mentioning how it was done in most bands I can remember.
 
#30
JimmyM said:
Ya...I can dig it. But notice I used the word "generally."
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Hey Jimmy,

On a related note, Stevie-Ray material is a staple in cover bands here, and I've been in some 4-piece groups too. And invariably on CROSSFIRE I've got at least one guitarist - and at the intro, 2 of them - playing the bass line along with me. The one does nothing else for the whole friggin' song. I say, Hey that's a keyboard thing on the album and if you want to spice up the song why not grab some of the right-hand keyboard action that actually spices the arrangement up?!?

Sheesh - a lot of other songs these guys miss all the arrangement nuances too and just treat the bass player a glorified octave-down device! Fortunately I do change things up on them ; }
 
#31
greenboy said:
Hey Jimmy,

On a related note, Stevie-Ray material is a staple in cover bands here, and I've been in some 4-piece groups too. And invariably on CROSSFIRE I've got at least one guitarist - and at the intro, 2 of them - playing the bass line along with me. The one does nothing else for the whole friggin' song. I say, Hey that's a keyboard thing on the album and if you want to spice up the song why not grab some of the right-hand keyboard action that actually spices the arrangement up?!?
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Right! Hell, I used to play Crossfire in a 3-pc with me on guitar, and I would even grab the keyboard part in the intro and just let the bass carry the riff.
 
#32
Swift713 said:
People ask this sort of question all the time and it sort of perplexes me. What's with the fear of space? Anyway, generally a guitar takes up more space during a solo. I usually either respond to what the guitar is doing or just focus on holding it down for them.
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+1

That's what's so cool about power trios.

And just because it's on the record one way, doesn't mean it has to be done live the same way. Geesh, if you want it exactly like the record, go to a hip hop or Def Leppard show. :smug:
 
#34
Got to remember that on recordings there are all kinds of studio trickeries employed that actually make it sound huger. As simple as fading up a sub-bass track, changing EQ, alternate mic'd amp track being brought up, subtle subharmonic generator employed, multiband or multipass compression, etc.

To get a sense of this live for some material a player certainly benefits from at least having a few stompboxes at his disposal that can be stomped on or off, EQ or alternate compression - whatever. Or it could just be pluckin' different ; }
 

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