THE Pedals for the SVT Sound

[Poke]

I find low switch to the left scoops mids no matter how much you dime the mid knob. I prefer low switch in the middle with quite a bit of bass boost.

I do think I prefer the Super 300 overall, but the Broughton is very close.

I was disappointed to see that Sushi's SVT pedal is based on the Classic. Probably won't be getting one of those.

That's where I usually end up in the end. Low switch in the middle with a slight bass boost. Good to know I'm not the only one. Seemed like I was missing out on the SVT experience if I didn't scoop my mids with the low switch like everyone else suggests.

 

[TheLopp]

That's where I usually end up in the end. Low switch on the middle with a slight bass boost. Good to know I'm not the only one. Seemed like I was missing out on the SVT experience if I didn't scoop my mids with the low switch like everyone else suggests.

That's how I use it too. Bass boost off with quite some bass boost. A little extra high mid, cut some highs but treble boost on. And gain halfway up. Sounds glorious!

 

[cusar5]

I don't really know that much about SVTs, but what model is the Super 300 and SV Pre modelled after?

Dunno about the 300, but the SV-Pre is modeled after a 70s SVT according to the Broughton site.

 

[Lowendtech]

I do think I prefer the Super 300 overall, but the Broughton is very close.

This is my feeling as well. The S300 is bigger, more expensive, has a couple more features and sounds great while being more versatile. Having said that, It's also harder to get it to be clean. There's always some dirt and if you have anything boosting the signal in front of it then forget about clean. And that's with passive Fenders. That's not necessarily a bad thing but personally I'd prefer it if the bottom 1/3rd of the gain was easier to dial in clean if you wanted it. But I have other things that do clean very well so I'm ok with it.
That's one thing that the Broughton definitely does better. But I typically had to stack the SV-Pre with something else (like a FlipTop or a clean tube Boost) to get what I wanted from it. The S300 comes with its own add on with that delicious Bright switch.
The S300 would be my choice if I could only bring one of them. It was pretty close, but I kept the S300 and sold the SV-Pre but only because I've forced myself to not have 6 pedals that do the same thing.

I'll see what happens when the Mozztronics shows up.

 

[Lowendtech]

I'm currently sending the S300 into the return of my YBA100 and it sounds pretty darn good.
So there's that.

 

[TheLopp]

Dunno about the 300, but the SV-Pre is modeled after a 70s SVT according to the Broughton site.

So, of i read this correctly, the blue line was -69 to -70 and probably what the SV Pre is modelled after? Then came the blackface, which would be what Sushi Box is doing? The big difference as I read it would be the power amp tubes, which none of the pedals mimic? I might be way off but I'm not sure what you're disappointed at? Is it that much of a difference between the two?

 

[Lowendtech]

Hey @Sensei Tim can the Super300 be run at higher voltages?
Asking for a friend.

 

[davelowell2]

So, of i read this correctly, the blue line was -69 to -70 and probably what the SV Pre is modelled after? Then came the blackface, which would be what Sushi Box is doing? The big difference as I read it would be the power amp tubes, which none of the pedals mimic? I might be way off but I'm not sure what you're disappointed at? Is it that much of a difference between the two?

I think Sushi's is based off of the CL, which is the 90's to current standard SVT.

SVPre is based off the model right after blue line, so early 70's.

 

[TheLopp]

I think Sushi's is based off of the CL, which is the 90's to current standard SVT.

SVPre is based off the model right after blue line, so early 70's.

If I understand correctly (which I'm famous for not doing) blackface SVT Classic.

Blackface SVT Classic according to Mr Sushi

 

[davelowell2]

Blackface SVT Classic according to Mr Sushi

Yeah, I think Classic means a modern version.

 

[TheLopp]

Yeah, I think Classic means a modern version.

Ah, SVT-CL of course... Still don't know the difference but I understand it's a "modern" version. Thanks!

 

[Sensei Tim]

Hey @Sensei Tim can the Super300 be run at higher voltages?
Asking for a friend.

you can run up to 18v. (all of the caps are rated for a minimum 25V).

 

[cusar5]

Ah, SVT-CL of course... Still don't know the difference but I understand it's a "modern" version. Thanks!

My experience with SVT-CLs is negative, but I think that might just be because I've mostly heard them played through modern Ampeg cabs. Vintage SVT cabs sound way better than the new ones.

 

[Solude]

Helix Stomp

 

[Matt Dean]

you can run up to 18v. (all of the caps are rated for a minimum 25V).

Thanks and good to know. Running it at higher voltage will increase the headroom.

 

[Fuzzbass]

Thanks and good to know. Running it at higher voltage will increase the headroom.

18V often gives more headroom, but I've also seen manufacturer comments such as "it won't hurt (pedal X) to run it at 18V, but doing so won't change performance". Will the Super 300 specifically have more headroom at 18V?

 

[cusar5]

Definitely experiment with voltages for the Super 300 if you can. I just tried it with my DC7, and 18v sounds amazing.

Changed up my SV-Pre settings as well, as per a tip from the Broughton thread: treble rolled way back, Bright switch on. Seems to give it a bit more headroom overall with the switch on.

The shootout continues!

 

[Sensei Tim]

18V often gives more headroom, but I've also seen manufacturer comments such as "it won't hurt (pedal X) to run it at 18V, but doing so won't change performance". Will the Super 300 specifically have more headroom at 18V?

it should! Running the opamps at 18v instead of 9 will definitely give more headroom.

ive been experimenting with including a charge pump or bipolar power on board but I don't have a whole lot of free space on the pcb. Figured it'd just be better to leave it to the end user to decide if they want to use 9V or 18v to run it

 

[Sensei Tim]

Hi all,

I know I said in the previous post that the Super Three Hundred can run on 18V - i'm going to have to take that back.

There is one part in there that is related to the switching system that i thought was rated for 25V but is actually rated for a maximum voltage of 18V. so if your power supply is putting out 18.1V and the chip happens to be on the lower end of the spec when it comes to the maximum voltage there is a chance that the chip can be fried and then the switching won't work. there is a slight possibility that ESD may damage the chip also but i think the chances of that happening are slim.

I apologize for this confusion. if you have a pedal that suddenly stops switching I will cover the cost of shipping it back and replacing the chip.

T

 

[cusar5]

So, it was a very hard fought race, but ultimately the Master Super 300 with Bright switch on is my favorite SVT tone in a pedal thus far.

Broughton SV-Pre gets really, really close, but you have to dime the Master and set the Bright switch on, which limits your EQ options more than the S300. Once you start stacking more pedals with the SV-Pre, the noise gets pretty bad, whereas the S300 remains much quieter by comparison.

SV-Pre is without a doubt one of the best pedal SVT emulations, but for me, the Master Super 300: