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Double Bass The thumb pain issue has been completely resolved

I posted here many months ago that i was experiencing incredible pain on my left hand's thumb that caused me to be unable to play for more than five min. I was taking lessons from a simandl teacher who was a fine player no doubt, but could not address my problem and basically told me "I just need to get in shape".

This past January I started taking lessons in Charleston SC with the jazz bass professor at the College of Charleston. As soon as I started playing he immediately recognized about 5 problems with my technique.

1. Clamping down and keeping my fingers pinned to the fingerboard the entire time, allowing no freedom of movement.
2. Using my hand muscles instead of my back muscles to press down the string.
3. Curling my wrist to an uncomfortably odd angle in order to play on the E string

To solve these problems he had me start playing sitting down with my right leg standing and my left leg hooked on the stool. The bass row rests on my leg. I the bass back now, with my leg serving as the anchor preventing it from hitting the ground. Instead of curling my wrist I keep my hand straight and curl my fingers to play on the lower strings, moving my hand closer to the finger board if needed. I also keep all of my fingers free using only the finger I need to play the specific note. I shift as opposed to stretching. I have small hands so I even shift a bit when moving from Bb to C in first position.

I cannot tell you what a difference this has made for me. I never experience pain anymore, I am able to play as long as I want, and the bass has actually become fun, as opposed to a painful chore.

I have even applied this same method to my electric bass playing, with the emphasis being on shifting rather than stretching. I realize that everyone has a method that works for them so I am not touting this as being better than anything, all I know is that it has worked wonders for me and I am happy.
 
I suggest that the problem may not have been with the Simandel method you were being taught, so much as with a teacher who either couldn't see the problems developing, or couldn't verbalize the solution.

I had many, if not all of the problems you had, but in my case my teacher (who teaches the Simandel method), noted and corrected all those issues, before they created physical damage.

The only problem you had that I did not, was hands too small to reach a normal half position stretch. Perhaps you would have been better served, playing a bass with a smaller mensure (vibrating string length).

At any rate it is great that you found a way to play healthily.
 
I think it had more to do with the teacher I had. He is a fine person and sincerely sought to help me, but things just were not working out.I still work on Simandl etudes and what not, but I apply the method I am now being taught. I think for some people stretching works better, but for my shifting is probably the best way to go. I find it helps me particuarly on Electric Bass now.
 
I've been having LH thumb pain for about a month. I determined I was squeezing too much, but couldn't figure out why.

I figured it out last night.

I was letting my left elbow drop to where my left forearm was not perpedicular (sp) to the finger board, so I was unable to use the musules (sp) in my back and shoulder effectively to put weight on my fingers. I had to squeeze to stop the strings with my left hand.

Now that I'm remembering to keep my left elbow up, no more LH thumb pain, but I'm feeling a little pain in my left shoulder blade, probably from using musules (sp) that I have not used in a while.

I had not brought it up to my teacher yet. I may have been using proper form during my lessons, but not my practice.

I may purchase a large mirror for my practice room.
 
Finding ones problems and then categorically fixing them can lead to finding more problems or rather a mere "sending it down the line" issue. The thumb believe it or not starts in the lower pert of the thoracic spine . At the top of the lumbar spine. This part of the spine is where the "bending" that lower back does stops. Most people freeze this part of the back, and the result is that the other parts do more work. ie. the thumbe, the shoulder, I will guess that wehn the pain in the shoulder changes it will move to the left side of the neck.

There are feldenkrais lesson that will erase this "non efficient" body use. But most people don't have the patience
Good luck with the mirror, seeeing bad habits is like looking at a mirror of ones self. You don't see the diiferences without an objective reference.