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The value of a banged up instrument

I am a drummer first and a bassist second, but this year has turned that on its head. So, I have been focusing more on stepping my bass game up. For years I've made do with a Squier CV Jazz and decided that I ought to graduate to a proper Fender Jazz... which naturally became three, because it seems that no bassist can have just one axe. Enter an American Deluxe, an American Deluxe V, and a 90s MIJ fretless.

The two American Deluxe basses are the finest string instruments I have ever owned, and I paid accordingly. They are well-crafted, and in exquisite condition. I mean, the level of quality is noticeably obvious compared to my Squier, which itself is quite good. Likewise, the fretless is also very well-crafted and superior, but it does have a good bit of superficial wear to it, mostly dings in the finish.

Here's the thing: More often than not, I find myself picking up the fretless to play instead of its higher-ticket standmates. This is partly due to the fact that it's the one with the learning curve and could use the hours. But, I am also simply more comfortable with this battle-scarred axe in my hands, while I almost feel like I need to put on silk gloves for the other two guys. In fact, I have already done some mods to the fretless (ditched the PG, Dremeled a slot for truss rod access, put in an Audere) while I'm on edge even changing out the strings on the other two!

Thinking ahead to when things mellow out and I can go out and do some gigging, I am wondering how comfortable I'll be bringing one or both of these Am Dlx basses along. After all, I did get the four-string particularly to be my main gigging bass. But I know that I will be on edge doing so, since gigging means wear and tear eventually.

Yes, I know--get over it. I understand, I really do. I've always rolled my eyes at those who buy expensive sneakers but never wear them so they don't get dirty, or the guy who buys a Corvette only to leave it in the garage so it doesn't get a scratch. I share the popular opinion around here that basses are tools to be used, not works of art to look at. And truth be told, honest-wear dings and chips don't even bother me that much to begin with. But at the same time, I take care of my gear and don't relish the idea of putting that first ding on an instrument that's in such great condition. I would still beat myself up over it. I imagine that some of you must understand this feeling.

So, lesson learned: I'm realizing that there's value in buying an already banged up instrument; not for the faux ripped-jeans mojo of a Fender Relic or whatever, but the simple lack of pressure to keep it immaculate. Someone else already put those dings there and stressed about for you! My next bass purchase, I am going to be looking FOR those flaws--and just PLAY it!
 
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Sometimes the value of a banged up instrument is in the fact that you can play it anywhere, anytime without much concern.
I have a nice 5 string Cirrus.
I also have a nice 5 string Squier.
Guess which one will go with me to a questionable gig?

Relative note; I have a half century old banged up station wagon.
Every few years my wife asks me why I still have it.
I answer with a question; next time I want to haul buckets of manure for the garden, do you want me to use your car?
After that, it will be years before she asks again. :laugh:
 
In my case it seems that the past couple of "love taps" each bass I bought were happy suprises I found after taking a proper look at them and playing them for a bit. I try to keep my instruments free of dings, but a lot of that wear just shows the instrument has been loved and appreciated (in it's own way!). All I got to do is not add more dings on it! :smug:

Case in point: learning my lesson from using a very nice looking Vantage Bass as a careless beater.
 
not to be snoopy but can we see a pic of your fretless..:thumbsup:

I didn't want to be indulgent but here ya go!

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Sharp bass!

You put new heads on your drums and beat the crap on them, right? Guitars are tools. Don't sweat it. If you do get a choice ding on a cleaner bass congrats! That makes it easier to play. First scratch might hurt but dig in and play.

Now that your a bassist you get to fire the drummer. Oh, wait, that's you. Haha.
 
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You put new heads on your drums and beat the crap on them, right?

Well, not quite the same; I would say heads are more like strings in that regard. But I get what you are saying, and to that point I once owned an acrylic drum set that sounded great and looked stunning. But I hated taking it to gigs because I was so paranoid of even scratching or even cracking them, so I sold them. Granted, a cracked acrylic drum is much more catastrophic than chipped finish, but the general idea is the same, I think.
 
Just be careful. I don’t know what people are doing to destroy their instruments. I’ve been gigging for 50 years and never damaged an instrument beyond a ding here or there. I don’t baby my instruments, I just take care of them. It ain’t rocket science.

Totally right, totally reasonable! I suppose, to use the car analogy again, I'm the kind of person who'd rather drive a compact beater than a fancy sports car. I'm also that guy who hits the bumpers of both cars on either end when I parallel park, but I live in NYC and hey, that's what they're there for, right?
 
It's hard for me to justify the cost of a shiny, good instrument, in part because I know it will be coveted and in part because losing something I'd be loathe to pay for twice would kill me and also in part because I like learning an instruments quirks and then tweaking them in what is often a permanent manner.

That said, if I finally chucked out the money for a Rick I'd play it ALL THE TIME.
 
Guitars are tools

^^^ this...I am an electrician I have thousands of dollars worth of tools, they get used and beat up and replaced..I look at basses the same way...I don't go out of my way to beat them up by any means but life happens..I know guys who buy 40 thousand dollar trucks and immediately throw stuff in the back scratching it all up...it happens...

This is why I would never buy a bass that I am not going to take out and gig with it..i don't care if it cost 2k or more..I buy it because I like it and want to play it...I have a les paul custom that in 2013 was almost 4k..I played it at bar gigs all the time..I take good care of it but if it gets a scratch..so be it..

I get it that some people cherish their instrument to point of not wanting anything to happen to it, everybody is different..but personally if I buy it...its getting gigged...
 
I bought the only bass I ever bought new, a 2010 Fender American Deluxe 5 string, just for the purpose of "wearing it in", and having all the stories of doing so, myself. None of my heroes had any concerns about a bass' condition, so I followed their example. I got this bass to be my one for all gigs instruments, and for a decade it's been with me on every date, gig, session, rehearsal, etc. And that is a LOT of playing. It's the best bass I ever played, and I can't imagine leaving it home.

It isn't "beat up", like Jaco's. Yet. But I can't wait til it is! It has dings all over. Pickguard all scratched up. Rusty poles and screws. Headstock scratches. Worn frets. Couple of body dings thru the top coat. Nail scratches on the control plate. Buckle rash, tho I don't wear belts, go figure. My bass is aging well. All that use shows, but? It sounds far better now when new. And, somehow, it weighs a pound more today than when I got it.

I have endless stories from all the dings, scratches, etc. All great memories. Now. My first ding hurt more than expected, even tho it's why I got the bass, so as not to worry it. I don't worry it today. At gigs and sessions, I don't even use a stand. Just lean it on my amp. I say do what the heroes do. Just play. The best bass you have. Every time you do? It will become even better.
 
I was given by my son in law my first and only Fender bass four years ago, a sunburst MIM Jazz. I don't gig any more and when I have taken it out to jam sessions, I make sure it doesn't get banged. Except for fingerprints it still looks new.

I'm 67 now and only ever owned one other name brand bass, a Rickenbacker 4001 I played in a cover band in the late 70s/early 80s. Long gone with no regrets.

Otherwise I take my upright or one of my 1970s Raven-brand Japanese basses to electric jams.
 
This is why I have sold every pristine or expensive bass I’ve owned. I don’t like standing around waiting for something to happen to it that will drive down it’s value. I’d rather have quality inexpensive basses, like the CV, that I don’t mind getting dinged up...unless it’s on the neck. That’s always sad.
 
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