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Thinking about dropping my church band

Currently the band is composed of myself (bass, part-time drummer, and drum tech), my buddy (lead guitar and part-time bass), the worship leader (rhythm guitar and lead vocals), the band leader (occasional sax and vocals), and the pastor's son (drums).

Every Sunday morning at 6:30, a buddy of mine and I drive an hour and a half to play at this 50-person church for $50 a gig, then drive an hour and a half back. It was never about the money, more about helping out the church in worship. When they brought me on, they specifically asked me to upgrade their set and make recommendations for new drums, cymbals, mics, etc. in addition to playing bass and occasionally filling in on set. For the last year and month I've been playing, things have been up and down but recently we've plateau'd and tensions have risen.

In January, we made a goal to record an album before the end of the year and invest in a new set for the church. Neither of which have even been worked on due to the church's budget problems. I stopped giving the occasional suggestion for new gear back in July after hearing about their budget issues, and even bought new drumheads with my own money for them after they couldn't afford new ones. My buddy has made suggestions for D.I. boxes and also loaned them some of his. The only progression they made is buying a drum mic pack for the live stream and for when we'd record, absolutely nada besides that.

Full-band practice is difficult, as the pastor's son lives an hour away and doesn't want to drive the distance, so we practice an hour before the gig. It's the same thing every week, and there's no variation or experimentation as the band leader doesn't allow it and the drummer (who started on set two years ago) can't keep up with anything other than four on the floor and doesn't practice besides with us. I don't mind playing the roots and fifths as long as the congregation enjoys it and the service goes well.

Tensions recently have arisen due to the pastor's son ordering us to start recording because he wants an album out before the end of the year. He expects us to come up on Saturdays and stay the night and also stay late on Sundays, both are hard for the two of us as we both have obligations outside of the church and can't just drop them at a moment's notice (work, gigs, cycling, etc.). He has no experience in recording and believes it to be easy and an album being able to be knocked out in a day or two. I'd have no problem if this was all planned out, but he often springs it on us, thinking he can volunteer our time, and expects us to drop what we're doing to stay.

I had planned to leave by January if things hadn't gotten better, mostly to focus on school and work. I gave the band leader and pastor's son my notice in September, and their response was "Yeah, we'll find your replacement." In addition, they've been talking about how little my buddy and I have given to the church and how often we leave right after church (mostly for homework and other obligations), I've overhead them talking about it a few times now.

What really takes the cake is when the worship leader informed me this past Sunday that the band leader and pastor's son have been talking about my buddy and I for quite some time. In particular, they said that I had anger and authority problems, that I was always making the focus on money, and that they were tired of my suggestions for the drumset (again, haven't made one since July). I can agree on the anger issues as I went through a rough patch back in March/April and I was always frustrated, I don't recall snapping at anybody though. No clue what the authority problems were about, as I've always gone with the flow and I never saw myself as a leader in the band and never attempted to argue with any directions. No clue where the money thing is coming from either, as I never brought up the topic of money before and it was never an issue for me. The drum suggestions one just makes me laugh though.

All this explains why our Sunday services have had tension in the air and my buddy and I share the same sentiment that we're not wanted there now. The others seem to have a cold shoulder.

The worship leader said he used to agree with them but informed me of their issues with us because he feels they're overly nitpicking and he wants me to talk to them, which I'll be doing this Sunday. I'm hoping that a talk will ease all this out, but it really offends me that they're thinking like this. I'd love to dedicate more time to the band but a degree and job comes before it.

I really wanted to stick this all out till January because I hate dumping a band for issues, but this is getting really difficult to stay. My buddy has also said the same thing, and feels like leaving right now.

TL;DR: church band used to flourish but now tensions have arisen due to overly large expectations and talking behind backs and I'm thinking about dropping it.

Got any advice guys?
 
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*sigh*
Sorry you are having to desal with this. So often what I have found in church worship bands that I have been in is that everybody wants a lit of things to happen....... magically. They don't want to DO anything to make it happen. They are all too happy to point out how much more YOU could be doing. Oh, and everything should be free. All equipment and effort should be free.

Also, many of the "players" and "sound techs" are nothing more than humans with a pulse who agreed to take in the task. They have little or no talent or experience. But they have a pulse... even if it rushes and drags. :D
 
I think your worship team has too many "leaders" my friend; a band leader, worship leader, and the pastors son giving orders on the side sounds pretty frustrating.
I think you should discuss your frustration with those who are frustrating you in a way that promotes peace and resolution of the tension you are experiencing. If you can meet the commitment that you have made to play until January, while providing worship music that benefits the congregation, I think that would be best.
If you can't though, I don't think the intent of worship would be met, and it might be better for that church to have a smaller worship team without an album out, then it would for them to have a worship team that is embittered against each other.
 
I play at my church. I started because I didn't have any other gigs, wanted to play and thought it wouldn't hurt to get back to church a little. That was over 10 years ago. I am the only one left from when I started. The rest of the band has been replaced and we have playing for quite a while. I actually play(ed) with them in various other jazz and cover bands in town throughout the years. Eventually we all ended up with families and at this church where we now play. The same 5 of us also have a new cover band. Kind of a different situation, but it works.

I live 5 minutes from church. We get paid $75 a Sunday for an 8:00 start/spot practice, 9 and 10;30 services. We learn songs on our own. Music sent via an app for our iPads. We are silent stage, DI/IEM with a $100,000 sound system. Flown mains, 4 18' subs in stereo, individual monitor mixes that we control via iPhones, etc. It's a pretty good gig. On a 4-5 Sunday month, the extra income is nice.

Not all churches are like this - semi-professional musicians that have degree's in music and have played for years, great gear, a dedicated professional FOH engineer, etc. - but it makes it pretty easy for me to show up and play.

I don't know that I would/could continue in your situation...especially if it's just another (poor) paying gig and not something more to you.
 
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First, an hour and half drive would be a non-starter for me. There are a dozen churches with 15 minutes of me that would appreciate a bass player who doesn't care about the money.

The "authority problems" sounds like typical stuff you get from a pastor who thinks they should never be questioned by anybody. Sorry but I wouldn't attend or play in a church where the pastor thinks he is above reproach.

All their other complaints are just icing on the cake. They don't value or respect you. Just leave and find another church that does, if you are so inclined.
 
I also tend to vote for leaving, since you are obviously no longer enjoying it.

However I strongly suggest to confront the band with how you feel! There something to learn for everybody involved. So - no matter how this ends - do not miss this chance.

My 2c.
 
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Same advice I always give - band discussion time. People should not be talking behind others' backs, and people should be able to discuss anything in a respectful manner. It sounds like you've done your time there. Like any other band, if you are leaving, give reasonable notice.
 
Record an album, need to buy a pencil, sharpen it, take some paper, and put some numbers on it. That is create the budget for the album. Paying for ovet night stays needs to be in the budget.
Ask yourself the question who's running the band, the choir director or the son. To me it is the choir director.
You have already run into budgetary problems.

Make sure you are keeping track of the expenses and donations. Take them off on your taxes. If the Pastor isnt watching his nickles and dimes, your church has other problems.
Why record an album?
 
Inner politics is the fastest way to kill a church.There are several warnings in the New Testament regarding inner political bickering. You need to go ahead and leave. If you enjoy playing Praise & Worship then find another church closer to home. I agree that playing on the worship team is a great way to worship and serve the church but you can do without the politics. Good luck. :whistle:
 
If a band can't be a BAND (work together, live together, etc..) then it is time to just get out.

You've eaten the cost of drum heads, get $50 a "gig" (minus your own costs into it for the REAL value), and are being chewed at because you have a LIFE outside of it.

If it were me, I would have just said, "sorry guys. I guess I'm not what you want/need. So I'll cut YOUR losses right now" and walk.
 
I think it's time we refer the term "church", as NPO-akac, Non Profit Organization Also Known As Church. Or RNPO,(Religious NPO) This will help separate the emotions and reinforce we are taking about compensation when dealing with a business.
 
So you are driving theee hours each week and playing for $50, which I doubt covers your gas and the wear and tear on the vehicle? They don't think you are giving enough because you leave for the hour and half drive as soon as the service is over? You have the patience of a saint to have been putting up with this. Time to give notice.
 
Taking church out of the equation, you'd be crazy to stick around. Now, if church is what's keeping you hanging in there, I'm pretty sure you'll find another place of worship closer than a 90 minute commute away to do your thing.

I'm happy to donate my time to causes when it's appreciated. But when my good will is being taken advantage of, I'll find something else to devote it towards.
 
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