Will a current Fender US Standard neck fit into a Warmouth Precision neck pocket with zero modification, shimming, fret dressing/leveling, new nut, etc?
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"US standard" is that a 20 fret American Standard neck?
Possibly a shim, but I would measure the depth and width of the heel cut out on your existing body. The Warmoth website has a page dedicated to this comparison, and they give the heel cavity dimensions of their bodies. It's up to you to compare these specs and hopefully they match up. Possibly the heel depth on their bodies are slightly deeper, which will make necessary changing your bridge saddle height on your bridge. I had a couple of Warmoth Deluxe V necks that sort of worked on a Fender American Deluxe V 2006 body, although the heel trough dimension was slightly different, by a 1/32nd of an inch.
Possibly a shim, but I would measure the depth and width of the heel cut out on your existing body. The Warmoth website has a page dedicated to this comparison, and they give the heel cavity dimensions of their bodies. It's up to you to compare these specs and hopefully they match up. Possibly the heel depth on their bodies are slightly deeper, which will make necessary changing your bridge saddle height on your bridge. I had a couple of Warmoth Deluxe V necks that sort of worked on a Fender American Deluxe V 2006 body, although the heel trough dimension was slightly different, by a 1/32nd of an inch.
Yes, it's a 20 fret neck. I checked the website and they allude to the fact that they make their bodies and necks to fit traditional Fender spec'd Precisions, but I don't want to bother unless its a direct "drop in" replacement. I know they will need to be modded to accommodate the HMV bridges.
So I guess my question is more what luck people have had doing this without having to modify in any way
I decided awhile back not to mix Warmoth with Fender parts. I get a better result using all Warmoth parts.
I had a great experience during my first Warmoth build. I ordered the body first, and while finishing it in multiple coats of tung oil, I ordered the neck, and hardware. The neck took awhile, but gave me time to do the finish and figure out what I wanted for hardware.
The same day that I received the neck, I assembled it and strung it, but I still hadn't decided on the electronics at the time... I called Warmoth and told them I just have to plug this thing in and hear it. My guy shipped me the SD Steve Bailey active pickup/preamp package within three days.
BTW. if you need a cheap method to align your Schaller tuning pegs, use a t-square against the bottom of them.
The same day that I received the neck, I assembled it and strung it, but I still hadn't decided on the electronics at the time... I called Warmoth and told them I just have to plug this thing in and hear it. My guy shipped me the SD Steve Bailey active pickup/preamp package within three days.
BTW. if you need a cheap method to align your Schaller tuning pegs, use a t-square against the bottom of them.
Is there anything one can do on a fretted bass that can't be done on a fretless? I can't decide whether or not to make my 5-string fretless. If it helps, I play mostly rock and funk.
I like the smooth slides of a fretless, and the ability to bend harmonics, and the low action, but I'm wondering if I could still make rock 'n roll sounds on a fretless. Any input?
I like the smooth slides of a fretless, and the ability to bend harmonics, and the low action, but I'm wondering if I could still make rock 'n roll sounds on a fretless. Any input?
I've been thinking on this a great deal myself, as I'm about to convert my one fretted instrument to fretless with a Warmoth neck.
I play lots of rock 'n roll on fretless, but I'm not in the business of trying to cop particular sounds as in a straight-ahead cover or tribute band.
A fretless might not be so great for slapping and popping, but other than that...
I have another question. It would appear that some of the options I want are a bit outside of the range of what Warmoth would offer. For example, a standard 5 Jazz body with a split p-bass pickup rout in the bridge position that would fit the Nordstrand NP5 (uneven coils). I imagine I could achieve this by leaving out the neck pickup rout altogether when I order it, and having it routed by someone else.
So my actual questions are: how/where do I look for people who would do that kind of work? I'm asking more about how to search for guitar builders than where to actually find one, because we obviously come from all over the country (if not the world) on this forum. If it helps any, I live in Upstate New York. I might be willing to drive to the City if I absolutely have to.
Secondly: the Nordstrand NP5 doesn't come with shells. So, how might I go about getting shells for it? Or, is there a way to squeeze an original P-Bass V pup out of Fender?
And finally: a questions about mixing and matching pickups. Being a total novice at wiring pickups, I did a little experiment on my Jazz Bass awhile back, and put a quarter-pounder in the neck position and a standard-issue Fender single coil jazz pickup in the bridge position. When I had them both turned up, there was a very quiet sound, like they cancelled each other out. I surmise this has to do with differing output. So if I end up being able to get my Warmoth bass fitted with one of these monster P pickups, would I then have to be careful of what I would use as the bridge pickup? My current pipe dream is the Nordstrand NJ5S.
So my actual questions are: how/where do I look for people who would do that kind of work? I'm asking more about how to search for guitar builders than where to actually find one, because we obviously come from all over the country (if not the world) on this forum. If it helps any, I live in Upstate New York. I might be willing to drive to the City if I absolutely have to.
Secondly: the Nordstrand NP5 doesn't come with shells. So, how might I go about getting shells for it? Or, is there a way to squeeze an original P-Bass V pup out of Fender?
And finally: a questions about mixing and matching pickups. Being a total novice at wiring pickups, I did a little experiment on my Jazz Bass awhile back, and put a quarter-pounder in the neck position and a standard-issue Fender single coil jazz pickup in the bridge position. When I had them both turned up, there was a very quiet sound, like they cancelled each other out. I surmise this has to do with differing output. So if I end up being able to get my Warmoth bass fitted with one of these monster P pickups, would I then have to be careful of what I would use as the bridge pickup? My current pipe dream is the Nordstrand NJ5S.
Looking to build a P bass using Warmoth, but wanna use these tuners, will they fit the Schaller BML tuner holes for a 4string? It'd be only my second build, so I'm not totally confident in know if they will. Thank you.
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King Olav, I have found Warmoth very accomodating with their customers. For instance I was just on their site building a Gecko5 medium body and saw they don't list a P pup option and I want dual reverse P's. I sent them an email and they replied they could do it without any problem but they don't list P's as a pickup rout for the Gecko5 series. If you use the contact form I'm pretty sure they'll do everything they can to get/keep a customer.
The standard NP5 uses the standard matched 4-string size halves on coil and comes with shells. The only NP5 that is not matched (and does not come with shells) is the Fender version.
I put a regular NP5 into a Warmoth Deluxe P a few years ago and Warmoth did the routing (standard 4-string layout) and it the pickup fit with absolutely no problem.
Just be careful that you don't order the Fender version of the NP5 - then you're stuck with mis-matched halves and no shells.
Check here: http://www.bestbassgear.com/nordstrand-pickups.htm#nordstrandp
I put a regular NP5 into a Warmoth Deluxe P a few years ago and Warmoth did the routing (standard 4-string layout) and it the pickup fit with absolutely no problem.
Just be careful that you don't order the Fender version of the NP5 - then you're stuck with mis-matched halves and no shells.
Check here: http://www.bestbassgear.com/nordstrand-pickups.htm#nordstrandp
Thanks for your input. I'm wondering how the same size pickup as a 4-string can be used, and still cover all five strings well? I'm a novice for sure, but I can't seem to understand it. Do the standard NP5s have the authentic p-bass sound?
The problem really then becomes a pickguard. It's for aesthetics, but it's a pretty important part of my design. My other idea was getting a Deluxe 5 '51 P body. That has all the routs I want, and if I'm not mistaken, it would also fit with the Deluxe 5 Slab '72 pickguard, right?
By the way, since it's rear-routed, I plan to drill my own control holes.
And while I'm at it, I have an MiM Fender Jazz that I want to replace the neck on. I've done the measuring and am pretty sure a Warmoth neck would fit, but what I want to do is get a Tele neck with a 1 11/16" nut width. I'm wondering if that would fit an actual Fender body.
The nut width is the wrong end of the neck to be concerned about, the heel dimensions are. All this data is on the Warmoth website, you need to do your basic research, measure the heel of the body in question and look on the website or call them.
