Yeah get it as far up as it will go without the strings slapping it.
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Yeah get it as far up as it will go without the strings slapping it.
I guess I'm developing a red-accent theme then! I think they'll look sweet with the white bird.
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Does anyone here have one of the MIJ T-90 T-birds with chrome Kluson-style tuners, chrome pu's and 3-point bridge? They look pretty nice - the closest to a 70's T-bird I've seen (only because of the 3-point bridge) as in, it could look like a 60's bird if not for the bridge.
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I've been thinking about all the Epiphone basses earlier today, not about the basses themselves, but their names.
What I mean is, if you look at the thunderbirds, there are the Standard, The Pro (Active pickups), The Classic Pro and now the Vintage Pro. Other basses include the EB-0/EB-3, The Viola Bass and the Embassy Pro.
What I'm talking about specifically, is the "Pro" bit. What makes an instrument Professional in their mind. All my gigging basses are Epiphone (Epi and proud)
. Two of them are Thunderbird Classic Pro's, and a Viola Bass. But I would use them all on a professional standpoint. I've used them all in rehearsal, recording and live situation. Heck, even my favourite guitar which I use all the time, is an Epi Les Paul Junior (not a pro) i got new about 5 years ago for £99. I love it, and I would gladly use it live and in the studio.
It's the same with their guitars, some are Pro, some aren't. And I wouldn't always take it as another word for 'Plus' or 'Better quality', sometimes it does, but if you apply that logic to everything, it doesn't make sense. The Embassy Bass doesn't have a standard equivalent, just the 'Pro' version, the pro is technically the standard. And the Jack Casady Bass is just called the Jack Casady, not Jack Casady Pro. Even though it's one of their most expensive basses. So does it hint that a bass half the price can be used professionally, but the Jack Casady can't, I don't think so.
Is their actual meaning behind this Pro business, or is it just a marketing ploy for people to buy more expensive instruments. With the Classic-Pro Thunderbird, I could see them saying that because of the Gibson Pickups (not saying Epi pickups are bad, I quite like them). But I don't understand the others. I've never based my purchases on the name, always play it before I buy it when I can, just never understood it, they've used the Pro suffix for years. Never understood why. What do you guys think?
What I mean is, if you look at the thunderbirds, there are the Standard, The Pro (Active pickups), The Classic Pro and now the Vintage Pro. Other basses include the EB-0/EB-3, The Viola Bass and the Embassy Pro.
What I'm talking about specifically, is the "Pro" bit. What makes an instrument Professional in their mind. All my gigging basses are Epiphone (Epi and proud)
. Two of them are Thunderbird Classic Pro's, and a Viola Bass. But I would use them all on a professional standpoint. I've used them all in rehearsal, recording and live situation. Heck, even my favourite guitar which I use all the time, is an Epi Les Paul Junior (not a pro) i got new about 5 years ago for £99. I love it, and I would gladly use it live and in the studio. It's the same with their guitars, some are Pro, some aren't. And I wouldn't always take it as another word for 'Plus' or 'Better quality', sometimes it does, but if you apply that logic to everything, it doesn't make sense. The Embassy Bass doesn't have a standard equivalent, just the 'Pro' version, the pro is technically the standard. And the Jack Casady Bass is just called the Jack Casady, not Jack Casady Pro. Even though it's one of their most expensive basses. So does it hint that a bass half the price can be used professionally, but the Jack Casady can't, I don't think so.
Is their actual meaning behind this Pro business, or is it just a marketing ploy for people to buy more expensive instruments. With the Classic-Pro Thunderbird, I could see them saying that because of the Gibson Pickups (not saying Epi pickups are bad, I quite like them). But I don't understand the others. I've never based my purchases on the name, always play it before I buy it when I can, just never understood it, they've used the Pro suffix for years. Never understood why. What do you guys think?
@ThunderFox - not familiar with all the different Epi models, but is it something to do with the neck join?
Pro = neck through?
Pro = neck through?
Was about to put a list of all the bolt ons and glued/neck through. I thought you was onto something, all the Pro basses have a neck through or glued neck, but then I saw it was a mixed bag. The Allen Woody bass, the EB-3, the Viola, the Explorer bass and the Jack Casady are not bolt on, but also not Pro. So it's not that... what could it be?
But the other basses you list are single model basses with no need to differentiate different configurations and features ... maybe?
THAT is a @hillerup question if I've ever heard one!I've been thinking about all the Epiphone basses earlier today, not about the basses themselves, but their names.
What I mean is, if you look at the thunderbirds, there are the Standard, The Pro (Active pickups), The Classic Pro and now the Vintage Pro. Other basses include the EB-0/EB-3, The Viola Bass and the Embassy Pro.
What I'm talking about specifically, is the "Pro" bit. What makes an instrument Professional in their mind. All my gigging basses are Epiphone (Epi and proud)
It's the same with their guitars, some are Pro, some aren't. And I wouldn't always take it as another word for 'Plus' or 'Better quality', sometimes it does, but if you apply that logic to everything, it doesn't make sense. The Embassy Bass doesn't have a standard equivalent, just the 'Pro' version, the pro is technically the standard. And the Jack Casady Bass is just called the Jack Casady, not Jack Casady Pro. Even though it's one of their most expensive basses. So does it hint that a bass half the price can be used professionally, but the Jack Casady can't, I don't think so.
Is their actual meaning behind this Pro business, or is it just a marketing ploy for people to buy more expensive instruments. With the Classic-Pro Thunderbird, I could see them saying that because of the Gibson Pickups (not saying Epi pickups are bad, I quite like them). But I don't understand the others. I've never based my purchases on the name, always play it before I buy it when I can, just never understood it, they've used the Pro suffix for years. Never understood why. What do you guys think?
I was thinking this too, but the Embassy Pro is also a single variation, yet that is still a Pro... and the Gothic Thunderbird is a variation that isn't a pro...
I've been thinking about all the Epiphone basses earlier today, not about the basses themselves, but their names.
What I mean is, if you look at the thunderbirds, there are the Standard, The Pro (Active pickups), The Classic Pro and now the Vintage Pro. Other basses include the EB-0/EB-3, The Viola Bass and the Embassy Pro.
What I'm talking about specifically, is the "Pro" bit. What makes an instrument Professional in their mind. All my gigging basses are Epiphone (Epi and proud)
It's the same with their guitars, some are Pro, some aren't. And I wouldn't always take it as another word for 'Plus' or 'Better quality', sometimes it does, but if you apply that logic to everything, it doesn't make sense. The Embassy Bass doesn't have a standard equivalent, just the 'Pro' version, the pro is technically the standard. And the Jack Casady Bass is just called the Jack Casady, not Jack Casady Pro. Even though it's one of their most expensive basses. So does it hint that a bass half the price can be used professionally, but the Jack Casady can't, I don't think so.
Is their actual meaning behind this Pro business, or is it just a marketing ploy for people to buy more expensive instruments. With the Classic-Pro Thunderbird, I could see them saying that because of the Gibson Pickups (not saying Epi pickups are bad, I quite like them). But I don't understand the others. I've never based my purchases on the name, always play it before I buy it when I can, just never understood it, they've used the Pro suffix for years. Never understood why. What do you guys think?
Personally think that you're overthinking it. Making it sound like a conspiracy theory
But as @kat888 said, the Pro Thunderbirds are neck thru's with either Gibson pickups or active pickups, they have a lower model so they didn't want to put them in the same category hence the "Pro"
The others you list don't have a lower version to warrant a "Pro" version. Also the Allen Woody and Jack Casady basses are, for lack of a better term, signature series, which usually means are higher end models.
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Or the "Pro" models are direct "reissue" of Gibson's... with the exception of the first "Pro" Thunderbird
I not too bothered about it that much, just wondered what made a bass a 'pro' bass.Personally think that you're overthinking it. Making it sound like a conspiracy theory
But as @kat888 said, the Pro Thunderbirds are neck thru's with either Gibson pickups or active pickups, they have a lower model so they didn't want to put them in the same category hence the "Pro"
The others you list don't have a lower version to warrant a "Pro" version. Also the Allen Woody and Jack Casady basses are, for lack of a better term, signature series, which usually means are higher end models.
Again, The Embassy Pro has no lower model, it's the only current variation, and the Gothic Thunderbird is a variation of the original, that has no Pro Suffix... plus the new Vintage Pro Thunderbird doesn't have active pickups or Gibson pickups, they have Epiphone made pickups, so it's not that either... but I think you answered my questioning of the Allen Woody and the Jack Casady not being Pro though, thanks for that.
The Goth Thunderbird is still very different from the Gibson version, being a bolt on and different pups, and long before they brought in the "Pro" version IIRC
Couldn't find anything on the 'Gibson' Gothic Thunderbird, no pictures or anything, could only find the 'Epiphone' models...
SORRY, just found it, hasn't been made in about 10 years, just saw it in the corner of my eye, but I still don't know why the Embassy bass is Pro, there isn't a variation, and it has passive Epiphone Pickups...
Also, forgot to say, they also have Pro version of their guitar line as well as the basses, but some just say it because they have additional features, like coil tapping. But some guitars just don't follow the trend. They actually have a beginner guitar line specifically designed for the guy starting out, most of them have PRO in the title, but not as a suffix, but as the actual name.
The basses are a bit different though, there isn't really a bass made for begineers, just some basses are more suited for beginners. Like the EB-0 with the short scale neck and affordable cost...
The basses are a bit different though, there isn't really a bass made for begineers, just some basses are more suited for beginners. Like the EB-0 with the short scale neck and affordable cost...
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For use at home and rehearsals I use an On Stage stand with the pivoting bottom. For gigs i have a double Hercules stand that locks around the headstocks and is about 47 million times more stable. Might be more; 47m is an educated guesstimate.
