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but what really bothers me, is that the fretboard is waaaaayyy to light shaded.

Don't know if its just an ugly rosewood board; a medium/dark but very dry rosewood board,


I bought a used t-bird that was in great shape, I loved everything about it, except...the fretboard looked very very light in color. After playing for at least a year I decided to oil the fret board and it made a huge difference. I was happy with it right away. That was a while ago and it looks like I need to do it again.

How often do fret boards need to be oiled? Do they reach a point of saturation where it does not need to be oiled so often?
I wouldn't be surprised if 10 different people gave you 10 different answers to this question. As for me... I use Formby's Almond Oil. It's wonderful for the wood, and within minutes of applying it, I don't feel an oily residue. For an instrument that is used frequently... I may only oil it a couple times a year. A "case-queen" will likely require more. I usually apply it, when I notice the wood looking whitish, hazy, and dry. Think of it kinda like your skin. When your skin is dry & unhealthy, it gets dry & hazy... maybe even flakey. When it's moisturized, the skin becomes softer, more pliable, and healthier looking. Same kinda thing.
 
Gene Simmons is a low-browed swaggering Mickey Mouse Club reject. What a joke... but there you go, they're popular. In a general kind of way (veiled reference here).
Barring extreme cases (like Gary Glitter)... I don't really give a crap about their political views, business practices, etc. I judge the music separately from the individual performing it. A murderer on death row is capable of painting a picture as beautiful as Rembrandt could... as can a butcher, baker, or candlestick maker. do I like KISS? Yes (the old stuff). Do I like Gene Simmons? HAYL naw!
 
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I wouldn't worry... My 50th Anniversary came with a pretty nice and light coloured rosewood fretboard, which I'm pretty sure will darken nicely, once I get around to oil it.
Straight 40 weight should do it. You don't wanna use that multi-vis stuff on finger foods...er...fingerboreds.
 
This has nothing to do with the original discussion regarding prices of concert tickets...

I get the point that you have some grudge against Metallica (Lars Ulrich) and Kiss (Gene Simmons) - But let's leave this for a completely different thread, before things run out of hand here...

I could have mentioned other bands that put up big stage shows, like U2, Rammstein, Mötley Crüe, Iron Maiden, Rob Zombie or whatever... The point being that touring with a stage show of this magnitude is not cheap, and therefore justifies the cost of concert tickets nowadays.

It is interesting that amoungst those that would describe both as douchebags, I suspect that most would also agree that they are douchebags in different ways. I notice this in many arenas and I refer to it as the Anna Kerenina principle - comparable units (families, bands, corporations, etc.) that function well are all more or less the same whereas, dysfunctional units are always unique.


Revenue and cost are not related. Just because it costs a lot to put on a show does not imbue the ability to charge a big price. Price is set by demand. However, a bigger/better show is going to have greater demand as well as having greater costs. One of the things that gives the big acts you mention the ability to charge a lot is simply nostalgia - those that listened to those bands in their high school years are now in their highest earning years and recognize that there are now limited opportunities to see these acts. The acts too know this and all comes together to create a much higher market clearing price for those shows.

But what is more interesting is profitability. One of the highest grossing tours of all time was the U2 360 tour, but it also cost $20-30 million to put on each show. I wonder how much the band actually made on the tour. Conversely, I suspect that ZZ Top is one of the cheapest stadium shows to mount.
 
Short hiatus for us until Halloween, (we had to cancel one show) as our guitarist is quite ill with Diverticulitis. and will be under the knife soon - She barely made it through our last show a couple months back, was doubled up behind her amp at least twice. She is at this point at just healthy enough to undergo the operation and play the Oct.28th show.
After that, I have to find a new drummer........... :eek:

Then, the world tour.

I hope all goes well for her.
 
but what really bothers me, is that the fretboard is waaaaayyy to light shaded.

Don't know if its just an ugly rosewood board; a medium/dark but very dry rosewood board,


I bought a used t-bird that was in great shape, I loved everything about it, except...the fretboard looked very very light in color. After playing for at least a year I decided to oil the fret board and it made a huge difference. I was happy with it right away. That was a while ago and it looks like I need to do it again.

How often do fret boards need to be oiled? Do they reach a point of saturation where it does not need to be oiled so often?
Like once a week or so.

Nah. Bout once a year is enough. I only erl the board when I'm giving it a cleaning. Wipe oil on, let it set for a moment, and then wipe off the excess. Rosewood is an erly wood naturally, so it doesn't need much.
 
I'm in a band where our set-list is like that - the audience is never quite sure what to make of us but they seem to enjoy it... :bassist:
Heeeeeeyyyy... I could get into that! People hate going to concerts with me! I'm a complete drag. From before the curtain opens, until after it has fallen... I'm a wide-eyed statue, soaking in every ounce of the show. Checking out the gear, trying to see everything I can see that's going on backstage, checking out speaker & light rigging, watching each performer intently as I search for mistakes, habits, patterns, etc. I'm probably alone on this... but I just can't understand why people would pay modern ticket prices, to get loaded & act like an idiot in a crowd of XX,000 people (especially at 12bux for a flat, watered-down, crappy beer). You can do that at home or at a friends house for damn near free (and with better beverages)! I'd blame it on old age... but I even did it like that when I was a kid. I would guess that I enjoy a concert more than the sea of screaming idiots... and I certainly get more out of it... but I enjoy it differently than (seemingly) everyone else. As a result... the only person I can really enjoy going to a concert with, or that enjoys going with me, is my long-time best friend.
 
Drummer doesn't have to dress, if she can really play (Band is only as good as the drummer) and wants to do '80s covers let me know Will.
She really is, in fact, female. So she always dresses like a girl. Well, almost always. I should rephase that - she always looks like a girl no matter how she's dressed. I sent her an email.
 
She really is, in fact, female. So she always dresses like a girl. Well, almost always. I should rephase that - she always looks like a girl no matter how she's dressed. I sent her an email.

... aren't you a drummer as well...?

I'm sure our Queen could find something for you to wear for the show. :laugh:
 
Well... since you said that... we (or at least I) will continue to hound you until you tell the tale. So... why don't you make it easy on us & spill the beans;)

Well since you asked, i'll have to give the short version, don't want to take up two pages worth here.
Problem is, i can't back it up, nothing to prove what i'm about to say is true. But it is, none the less, true.
My mom was a was a music loving wild child, she was a piano player, classical music trained. Also a big Jazz buff and was pretty amazing at both types of music.
So, in one of her many club romps, she met Gene and Stan before Kiss was Kiss.
She brought them home one day, Stan was hot for my mom, so i guess that played a big part in all of them meeting.
They were the scruffiest guys you'd ever meet. My brother and i took bass and guitar lessons from them, and they were the furthest thing ever from lessons, they really weren't teaching us anything.
Gene had a Pre CBS Jazz bass at the time, forget what Stan was bringing over. But, back then Gene was the greatest guy, he was real cool and humble. Stan was a jerk.
Anyway, after the course of them hanging out for some time, they told us about their rock stardom ambitions and Kiss. After they told us about what they were going to venture into, we just knew they were headed to the top.
And of course, once it all came together, we never saw them again, until, one day, my brother and i were chasing around some of our favorite underground bands, we were at at club in NYC at the time called Hurrahs, located somewhere near Lincoln Center, well, Stan was there out of makeup, we recognized him right away, we figured, hey it's Stan, he'd probably be happy to see us, Not.
He didn't remember a thing, and when we tried telling him about, you know, remember my mom (her name inserted here), he was like oh, yeah, and walked away.
So, it was cool in the beginning, but i guess these are the things that happen when you become a star.
The last band i was in, the guitar player knew Tommy Thayer, we got one of our CD's to him, hoping Gene would give a listen, i included a short note to see if he'd remember me, guess he couldn't care less because we never heard back from Tommy.
And now, the first of the chrome bits have arrived, it'll go on tonight.
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That's awesome, Jeff!

My brother and i had so many encounters with some pretty well known musicians, a long list, and i have to say, those people had manners, and treated my brother and i with respect.
But those two guys, well, guess i shouldn't complain, Gene was real nice to me in those days.
 
... aren't you a drummer as well...?
Well, my drumming isn't up to Nasty Habits standards, or at least not for now. But really, I don't have the legs for it. It's all about the visuals, y'know, and even as a thoroughly shallow person, I have to acknowledge the painful truth. Even if I shaved 'em, they would still look like they belonged to a Yeti.
 
Well, my drumming isn't up to Nasty Habits standards, or at least not for now. But really, I don't have the legs for it. It's all about the visuals, y'know, and even as a thoroughly shallow person, I have to acknowledge the painful truth. Even if I shaved 'em, they would still look like they belonged to a Yeti.
That's what having two bass drums is for! Or polyester pants :thumbsup::roflmao: