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Tilt back cabinet stands - Have you tried them?

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netmics

Apr 7, 2010
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Hi all!!!!!!

I am tired having to crouch to hear the real tone that I am getting from the cabinet. I have a GK RB700 and a GK NEO 410 cab. I saw some alternatives to tilt back the cab but I see they are for guitar combos only. I am thinking in constructing one also.

Here are some of these tilt bach stands:
Hamilton Uni-Stand Guitar Amp Stand
http://www.amazon.com/Hamilton-Uni-...8&s=musical-instruments&qid=1296827411&sr=1-1

Standback Standback Amp Stand
http://www.amazon.com/Standback-Amp...cal-instruments&ie=UTF8&qid=1296827294&sr=1-1

On Stage RS7705 Adjustable Amplifier Stand
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=470938631&pf_rd_i=507846

I like the firstone but I don't know if it will tilt back too much. If you constructed one please send me a photo to get an idea.

Please help!!!!!!!

Thank you
 
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#5
I had the On Stage Stands one, it's good because it lifts your amp up as well as tilts it. Makes for good monitoring but it won't support a 410, it's basically made for smallish combos.
 
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You could install one of these into the bottom of your cabinet .
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I use one of them for a 112 cabinet and it does a great job . If you mount it towards the front of your cab the angle of the tilt wouldn't be too much for your 410 cab . they are plenty sturdy enough for a big cabinet .

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I use an amp stand with my Roland DB 700, that looks kind of like the third example. I 've discovered that tilt back, or wedge type stands, still don't get the sound close enough to my ears, so I need some elevation with the tilt. made a world of difference, and I don't notice a loss of low end. A 410 cab though is a different beast, and maybe some sort of wooden box could be built , or the common milk crate ( sorry Jimmy M ! ).
 
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Netmics - I use Aguilar 112 speakers and they sit very low to the ground so what I did was build a simple platform about 10-12" high out of 3/4" plywood with a slight tilt to it (ie, front is 12" and back is 10" high) then painted it black. Works great, costs nothing if you have plywood and some tools around, makes the controls easy to reach and definitely easier to hear and better sound. If my description doesnt make sense send me a pm with your email and I'll send you a picture from my iphone tonight.
 
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PaulWarning said:
trouble is unless you're going through the PA as well you'll be firing straight at the ceiling instead of the crowd, but on the other hand bass is not supposed to be very directional, guess that's why marshall stacks are popular if you've got a roadie to do your lifting for you
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Problem isn't the bass, its all the mid to highs that can be very directional. If you go around to the back of the cab, you can still hear the bass, but you can't hear any of the tone.

The effects of phasing, especially with a 410, can contribute to this "beaming" effect.
 
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I use a Markstand folding "wedge" with my BFM Jack 12. Gives me about a 25-30 degree tilt, it weighs bugger all, and it folds into the front pocket of the amp bag. The rubber feet on the F1 stick to the Duratex coating so I have no problems with it slipping. It makes a huge difference to my ability to hear the mid- and upper registers on stage.
 
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PaulWarning said:
trouble is unless you're going through the PA as well you'll be firing straight at the ceiling instead of the crowd, but on the other hand bass is not supposed to be very directional, guess that's why marshall stacks are popular if you've got a roadie to do your lifting for you
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Yes, of course, I will use the cabinet tilted back like a monitor, just for me. I will trust in the PA and the sound engineer the output to the crowd :)
 
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GrowlerBox said:
I use a Markstand folding "wedge" with my BFM Jack 12. Gives me about a 25-30 degree tilt, it weighs bugger all, and it folds into the front pocket of the amp bag. The rubber feet on the F1 stick to the Duratex coating so I have no problems with it slipping. It makes a huge difference to my ability to hear the mid- and upper registers on stage.
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Yes, but I see it very weak, like for little cabs right?
 
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netmics said:
Yes, but I see it very weak, like for little cabs right?
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No, not weak at all. Strong, light, stable. The only issue with it is that it's not especially adjustable, but then neither is any wedge, really, except by how far back or forward you have the cab sitting on it. The tilt might be a bit much for taller cabs with higher centre of gravity, and these are less likely to need much tilt anyway.
 
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GrowlerBox said:
As with the Markstand, most of the weight of the cab is on the floor, so it doesn't need to be that strong. I bet you could hold that cab in that position with one finger ...
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Yes, you are right!! I did a test and almost all tge weight goes to the floor. I will attach some pictures later
 
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When I got my Dr Bass 1260 Slantface a few years ago, I was amazed at the increase in clarity provided by just a few degrees of tilt. not that it was like having the mid & tweeter directly at ear level, but certainly an improvement from standard floor placement.

I'd say that anything placed under the cab's front edge will help some.
 
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