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Tilt back cabinet stands - Have you tried them?

trouble is unless you're going through the PA as well you'll be firing straight at the ceiling instead of the crowd, but on the other hand bass is not supposed to be very directional, guess that's why marshall stacks are popular if you've got a roadie to do your lifting for you

Yes that can be a problem, but in my case, I go through the PA 99% of the time even in smaller places. The times that I do not go in the PA is when the place is really small. Then it hasnt been that much of an issue but YMMV.
 
You could install one of these into the bottom of your cabinet .
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I use one of them for a 112 cabinet and it does a great job . If you mount it towards the front of your cab the angle of the tilt wouldn't be too much for your 410 cab . they are plenty sturdy enough for a big cabinet .

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Thats a cool idea, and I was searching for something like this, but it would be better if the leg was adjustable. Did you have to cut a hole in the bottom of the cab to mount it flush?
 
Yes, you are right!! I did a test and almost all tge weight goes to the floor. I will attach some pictures later

Ok, here it is: I used a guitar stand to tilt back my cabinet. I had to put a foam between the cab and the stand to avoid material damage. finally I bought a rack case for my amp head, it looks cool!!! :D
 

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Ok, here it is: I used a guitar stand to tilt back my cabinet. I had to put a foam between the cab and the stand to avoid material damage. finally I bought a rack case for my amp head, it looks cool!!! :D

Just as a matter of interest, what's keeping the cab tilted back? It looks from the picture as though its centre of gravity is a little in front of the rear edge on which it's resting, which suggests it would be at risk of toppling forwards once the vibrating starts. I may be missing something in the photograph, of course, but it is one advantage to having a support under the front of the cabinet.
 
Just as a matter of interest, what's keeping the cab tilted back? It looks from the picture as though its centre of gravity is a little in front of the rear edge on which it's resting, which suggests it would be at risk of toppling forwards once the vibrating starts. I may be missing something in the photograph, of course, but it is one advantage to having a support under the front of the cabinet.

Oh!!! I forgot that detail!!! is a 3M nomad medium 6050 black matt, it is very durable and avoid slides very well. I also use it to protect the cab when I transport it in my cart ;)
 
I use an amp stand with my Roland DB 700, that looks kind of like the third example. I 've discovered that tilt back, or wedge type stands, still don't get the sound close enough to my ears, so I need some elevation with the tilt. made a world of difference, and I don't notice a loss of low end. A 410 cab though is a different beast, and maybe some sort of wooden box could be built , or the common milk crate ( sorry Jimmy M ! ).
NO MILK CRATES EVER!!!

come on j, we're trying to be examples to the kids out there!
 
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I've used keyboard stands with success. But with keyboard stands or any device that tilts the cab you've got to address how you want your amp to sit. When i use a tilted cab I usually set the head on its side on the floor. Not cool looking but works for me. When i use a rack mount head, and if the cab is light enough, i can put the tilt rack right on top of the rack case.
 
Thats a cool idea, and I was searching for something like this, but it would be better if the leg was adjustable. Did you have to cut a hole in the bottom of the cab to mount it flush?

Yes , you have to cut a hole . It's not too hard though and when you're done it folds flush and it's very sturdy . Hard to believe it's only $7 for the quality .
 
trouble is unless you're going through the PA as well you'll be firing straight at the ceiling instead of the crowd, but on the other hand bass is not supposed to be very directional, guess that's why marshall stacks are popular if you've got a roadie to do your lifting for you

I don't think the effect is that extreme, it all depends on the angle of tilt. In an average size pub, my little 1x12 still fires at peoples heads when on the MB wedge rather than their knees. It would have to be a very long room for it to fire at the ceiling!

I found when not using a wedge and no PA support for backline, that I couldn't hear the mid and high end detail properly and was turning them up to compensate, with the effect of sounding very toppy and clanky out front.

Now with the wedge, I can hear almost the same as what is thrown out front. It's not tilted back massively, just enough for it to reach my ears when standing about 10' in front of it instead of my knees. And still sounds full and detailed out front. Next best thing to a full stack IMO.
 
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I was just looking at stands. My rig is very light, total 38lbs, MB500 over 212MBE, and I want it higher up in the air.

I was thinking of bringing out my keyboard X stand and laying the cab on it sideways. I think I’ll try that this weekend. It's probably sturdy enough, but if it works okay, I'll order a more sturdy one, anyways.

I’m always in the PA, so it’s just for the stage.
 
when we do tv gigs we always use apples, or half apples (basicly a hollow mini crate) or what we like to call a calibrated audio block..which is generally a chopped spraypainted 2x4. it is nice when you dont have monitors, but as a whole the bass cabs sound better coupled with the floor. gives you more rumble for your rump.
 
The fEARful / nEarful style cab with a woofer, midrange speaker, and sometimes a tweeter has such wide dispersion of sound that they don't usually need to be tilted at all to be clearly heard. I have a tilt stand built into my 12/6 and never use it. Also, it's preferable to have a level surface for my amp. Bungie cords are yet another complication to avoid.