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Tina Weyback…

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It’s generally not known, except by the hardcore fans, that the Talking Heads started out as a trio. In fact, their first, pre-TH ‘77 single, “Love Goes To A Building On Fire”, was recorded as a three-piece(with some added horns). Here’s a rare early archival video, a typical art student loft style event, no formality, but no pogoing, razorblades, leather jackets, any fear of punk rock type sensationalism, just three mid-twenties peeps wanting to do something different. Tina may look nervous, but she’s really holding the thing together. This after not playing for very long…

David is still the out-there geek, at least he got his teeth fixed.
The spare, different versions of the songs are quite intriguing.
 
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Thanks for posting. They’re so young! I’d love to hear what they were tuning up to play at the end of that.

You can certainly hear the grooves that defined the best of the Heads, especially on “Stay Hungry” and “Tentative Decisions”.

I agree that Tina’s locked in with Chris and they really hold the rhythm tightly. I love her lines! She was a neophyte on bass, but she only missed cadence a couple of times and some of those are pretty athletic bass lines.
 
This came up in my YT feed, more early stuff, from even a year earlier. I never knew they had auditioned for CBS, but Tina just drives the proceedings. Amazing that there’s so many second album tunes in development at that time…


Here’s the song list/times:
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On “Stay Hungry” she’s using a wah, fairly uncommon for the time and for her, with a phaser on David’s guitar. Chris is a madman on drums.
 
It’s funny to hear you guys, who surely followed Talking Heads more than I did, talk about tight Tina Weymouth’s groove was at the very beginning. I mention that because I know David Byrne apparently did not think much of her and he brought in Busta Jones during their funkiest period. The irony is that David Byrne never struck me as much of a guitarist, but more as a guy with a cool vision of what he wanted to do.
 
It’s funny to hear you guys, who surely followed Talking Heads more than I did, talk about tight Tina Weymouth’s groove was at the very beginning. I mention that because I know David Byrne apparently did not think much of her and he brought in Busta Jones during their funkiest period. The irony is that David Byrne never struck me as much of a guitarist, but more as a guy with a cool vision of what he wanted to do.

Byrne added Jones as he expanded the personnel to expand the musical layers in order to head off to Fela-land, or whatever it was he had in mind. Fear Of Music(1979)was about the last time the band held on to their original sound, which ironically was, in its own artsy way, a facsimile of funk with all the scratchy staccato James Brown guitar style(just applied in a different manner). But even on FOM, cyclical African rhythms started to appear, primarily on “I Zimbra”…

It’s interesting that King Crimson guitarist Robert Fripp guested on that track and picked up some ideas that he carried over to the next incarnation of KC, with Adrian Belew(who had just spent time in the expanded Heads lineup, as well as playing on the album after FOM, Remain In Light, where the funk rhythms really came to the forefront). In the meantime, Byrne did the album with Brian Eno, My Life In The Bush Of Ghosts, that encorporated all sorts of world music motifs, but also a lot of would-be funk, as well as vocal sampling. Jones played quite a bit on that album, this being one of the more famous tracks(Fripp playing the weird guitar lines)….

The dual bass lines idea was carried over to the expanded TH line-up as they went in the different direction.
The relationship between Weymouth and Byrne was always complicated. David and Chris had been playing in an earlier band, with Tina(Chris’ then girlfriend)acting as a driver. When they needed a bass player, David suggested that Tina, having some basic skills on acoustic, jump on it. While her lines may seem simplistic, there’s always some quirky twists and turns that you never see coming, and that fit right in with David’s idiosyncratic rhythm/lead guitar work, which, in these stripped down versions, was fascinating to me as I thought Harrison was playing some of those bits. I never considered any of that stuff inadequate, just different, minimal, quirky in its own way.
As far as personality clashes go, Byrne suffered from Asperger syndrome, which leads people to act like they have no empathy or consideration for others. Nobody knew much about that stuff back then, and coupled with the fact that it was his band, I’d guess that some things rubbed Tina the wrong way, so the tension went round and round.
I had the occasion to observe a sound check of theirs in ‘79(a band I had been in was the opening act, and I drove the van and helped them out). The Heads were doing “Air”, a fairly straightforward tune, and Byrne stopped it in the middle, getting all over Tina’s case, however I didn’t hear any mistakes on her part up to that point, so who knows what was up his butt that day. Later on, I did have a brief casual conversation with him, which was a whole ‘nuther level of beaming in from another planet.
While there’s certainly some wobbly parts on those early tapes, overall I found Tina’s playing dead on…just my two cents, adjusted for inflation.
 
It’s funny to hear you guys, who surely followed Talking Heads more than I did, talk about tight Tina Weymouth’s groove was at the very beginning. I mention that because I know David Byrne apparently did not think much of her and he brought in Busta Jones during their funkiest period. The irony is that David Byrne never struck me as much of a guitarist, but more as a guy with a cool vision of what he wanted to do.
I think the guitar work on Remain in Light was exciting, innovative, and set the mood of those tracks. But yeah, I’m with you on his early stuff. I think it’s cool to see DB’s playing change from more of a punk thing to genuine Grade A funk guitar. I think his funky period peaked with Speaking in Tongues but it started much earlier. I think Fear of Music is where I’d say it became more dominant to me, but you can see bits of it coming even before that.

I’ve always been a fan of Tina’s grooves. They were among the first lines I learned on bass and they added so much to their songs. Her timing and spacing captivate me. Check out “Slippery People” for a fun, funky ride. She’s so efficient with her notes and her placement is so interesting. “I Get Wild/Wild Gravity” is a master class in spacing and serves both the mood and the groove weaving her low-end magic through that track. Worth a listen again if it’s been a while.
 
I think it’s cool to see DB’s playing change from more of a punk thing to genuine Grade A funk guitar. I think his funky period peaked with Speaking in Tongues but it started much earlier. I think Fear of Music is where I’d say it became more dominant to me, but you can see bits of it coming even before that.

"Found A Job" off of More Songs About Buildings And Food is the one that always strikes me as the proto-seed that eventually blossomed into all of Byrne's subsequent P-Funk wacka-wacka/bow-chikka-BOW-bow rhythm guitar excursions:

And that bass line, cot day-um Tina! Can you imagine coming up with that part?!?!
 
"Found A Job" off of More Songs About Buildings And Food is the one that always strikes me as the proto-seed that eventually blossomed into all of Byrne's subsequent P-Funk wacka-wacka/bow-chikka-BOW-bow rhythm guitar excursions:

And that bass line, cot day-um Tina! Can you imagine coming up with that part?!?!

Yep, that’s the song where I sat up and really noticed what she was doing, it just hit me. It’s like she’s doing counterpoint to all that constant scratchy guitar, like having a differing conversation with those rhythms.
I knew they/she were special from the first album, but thankfully they got Brian Eno to guide them, push them further. TH ‘77 was produced by Jon Bon Jovi’s uncle, and he really didn’t do a whole lot with them except to record them cleanly.
 
"Found A Job" off of More Songs About Buildings And Food is the one that always strikes me as the proto-seed that eventually blossomed into all of Byrne's subsequent P-Funk wacka-wacka/bow-chikka-BOW-bow rhythm guitar excursions:

And that bass line, cot day-um Tina! Can you imagine coming up with that part?!?!



I agree they were a very interesting band but I can only take about 30 seconds of Byrne's singing, then I'm out.
 
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"Found A Job" off of More Songs About Buildings And Food is the one that always strikes me as the proto-seed that eventually blossomed into all of Byrne's subsequent P-Funk wacka-wacka/bow-chikka-BOW-bow rhythm guitar excursions:

And that bass line, cot day-um Tina! Can you imagine coming up with that part?!?!

I’m not sure I can imagine playing that, much less coming up with it! Those interweaving guitar and bass lines are unique, interesting, and fun.

Even on 77, she was a noteworthy counterpoint to DB's guitar and melodies. Check out her playing on “Who Is It”. Quite the workout when they get jamming. She’s so innovative and adds so much to their music.
 
Her little 3 note repeating riff plays throughout this entire song. I would have sworn it was a keyboard on repeat. But it's an electric guitar.
I also love this video.


I love this song. Her meditative bass line in that song dances beautifully with the high hat and is one of the best layers of that mellow, polyrhythmic groove. Fun vid, too. Thanks for posting.
 

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