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Top 5 Orchestral Bassists

Discussion in 'Orchestral Technique [DB]' started by BrianMcAnally, Dec 28, 2008.


  1. BrianMcAnally

    BrianMcAnally Guest

    Dec 28, 2008
    Hello all, I would just like to know who you think the top 5 (or more) orchestral bassists in the world are right now. Please feel free to list them and explain/give detail about them. I am intrested in what your opinions are.
     
  2. bassbuz

    bassbuz

    Jun 21, 2005
    canada
    this has troll-bait written all over it..

    buz
     
  3. BrianMcAnally

    BrianMcAnally Guest

    Dec 28, 2008
  4. He means its an extremely subjective, broad and provocative question that might seems meant to rile up everyone. These kinds of questions (and the following debates) usually dont lead anywhere and cause trouble.


    There was an article that came out recently in the NY times or something that had the top 20 world orchestras and I think that the US list was 1. Chicago 2. LA 3. Cleveland 4. Boston 5. The Met
    So the principles of those orchestras are obviously good.
    In the end you might be better off just asking what bassist people think are really doing great orchestral work, rather than ranking them which inevitably will end in a big bloody battle royal.
     
  5. bassbuz

    bassbuz

    Jun 21, 2005
    canada
    He means its an extremely subjective, broad and provocative question that might seems meant to rile up everyone. These kinds of questions (and the following debates) usually dont lead anywhere and cause trouble.

    exactly. unfortunately, you proceed to quote a survey that does exactly that. WORLD orchestras?
    you can't measure empirically how good or bad an orchestra or player is. That's why auditions require large panels and are often rife with scandal.
    buz
     
  6. BrianMcAnally

    BrianMcAnally Guest

    Dec 28, 2008
    Oh okay, yeah, I know what you mean.

    Yeah, this was a bad idea. Sorry guys...
     
  7. I was just offering a credible review. One opinion. My opinion might be different, but there is an upper echelon of orchestras and everyone on that level is a ridiculously good musician. Like I said it was just one opinion comprised of the insight of many experienced musical reviewers.
     
  8. anonymous12251111

    anonymous12251111 Banned

    Apr 6, 2007
    You could perhaps re-name the thread into "Most exciting orchestral bassists." I'd definitely like to know who people enjoy watching and listening to.
     
  9. Good Idea Calvin, I personally like Eugene Levinson, Tim Cobb, Ed Barker and Edicson Ruiz
     
  10. LetterK

    LetterK

    Dec 29, 2008
    USA
    Close, it was the Gramophone, not the Times, and the top ranked American orchestras were 1. Chicago, 2. Cleveland, 3. Los Angeles, 4. Boston, 5. New York.
     
  11. LetterK

    LetterK

    Dec 29, 2008
    USA
    Why?
     
  12. THey play with that really clean, but intense style. I guess for Edicson I'm going more on the solo stuff Ive seen of his, but I would expect that his orchestral playing is just as good. I guess the other thing is those guys are all principles, so there is an aspect of being a great player and a great leader.
     
  13. I don't think that anyone really knows enough people and their playing to answer this question.

    Personally, I'd say that Ed Barker, Tim Cobb, Jeremy McCoy, Hal Robinson, and Ali Yazdanfar are pretty awesome.

    This is kind of an impossible question though. I know one bass player in the Berlin Phil, Peter Riegelbauer, and he's unbelievable, so, for me, he's one of my favorite orchestra bass players...
     
  14. LetterK

    LetterK

    Dec 29, 2008
    USA
    Speak for yourself!
     
  15. St-Teddy-Hall

    St-Teddy-Hall

    Dec 30, 2008
    london
    Who else would one be speaking for??

    The point is that this is a highly subjective question.

    The only way to answer this would be to listen to EVERY bass player in the world and even then the conclusion would be subjective.

    I don't know any American bass players from first-hand knowledge so my answer to this question would be skewed to European/English players.
     
  16. Dr Rod

    Dr Rod

    Aug 19, 2005
    There is a spot in Bruckner's 7th symphony, I think it's in the first movement, it's extremely hard to play half way in tune, jumping all over the place and full of accidentals. Well, apparently Edicson was taking a look at this part before a rehearsal when Claudio Abbado walked by and could not believe his ears when listening to Edicson's rendition.


    A year or two before he got in the BPO, he must have been 15 or so, he played the recit of Beethoven's 9th for the conductor and jury of the Schleswig Holstein Musik Festival in Germany (usually top European musicians) and they thought he had the maturity of a well seasoned Berlin orchestra bassist, talk about foresight !
     
  17. anonymous12251111

    anonymous12251111 Banned

    Apr 6, 2007
    Rod, have you been to Edicson's website? His Solo Video's are INCREDIBLE. The way he plays defines "musician". He has complete control over the instrument, perfect intonation and an incredible sense of musicality. Honestly, when he plays Bottesini 1 it sounds like heaven.
     
  18. St-Teddy-Hall

    St-Teddy-Hall

    Dec 30, 2008
    london
    Amazing!

    And I would agree with you that his solo videos are tremendous.
     
  19. Dr Rod

    Dr Rod

    Aug 19, 2005
    Not yet Calvin, thanks for the tip.

    I did hear the Bottesini 1 however, on youtube I think, and I agree with you completely. Before Edicson everyone used to say that Bottesini 1 was "ugly" or "hedious", not anymore!