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Tru-Oil question

Jul 20, 2005
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Actually, it's a basic question about Birchwood Casey Sealer & Filler.
If you start with a piece of raw wood, do you apply the sealer/filler before staining, or after staining? I know that the Tru-Oil Finish is the very last step (the 3rd step).
Thanks!
 
I've never used a pore filler, I actually like pores and don't paint my basses. But that said I would think you want to fill the pores first and then stain the wood and filler, and then several coats of tru-oil.
Yeah the tru-oil will never fill the pores on it's own, well maybe after 30 coats or something. ;)
Good luck,
Dirk
 
I've never used the product before, but I don't think that's correct. I believe a sealer is meant to, well, seal the wood, which would prevent a stain from taking.

The recipe I've seen most often is:
1. finish sand
2. stain (optional)
3. grain fill (optional)
4. sealer
5. color coats (optional)
6. clear coats
7. sand + buff

I'm with Dirk on one point though, I prefer the look and feel of a guitar that doesn't have the grain filled. It's a pretty rare kind of finish, but you can look at the bass I just finished to get an example of how the texture looks once everything is done. There's a closeup of the knobs that shows it best:Andy's Orange Hybrid
 
There are all types of fillers out there. Some fillers have color of their own and are meant to simulate the color of the wood you are applying them to. In that case, you would fill before staining. Though I don't think these types of filler are any good for a natural finish as they will not stain the same as the wood. These types of fillers are more appropriate for a painted finish. In your case, where you are using a sealer/filler, I would think that it would dry in a clear or near clear state. So you would apply this after the stain. If you want a high gloss finish, filler will be necessary if you are using a very porous, or deep grained wood (like swamp ash). If you are using something like maple, a very tight grained wood, a filler is not necessary, though a sealer is a very good idea--after the stain.