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trying to find a bluetooth amp for practice with earbuds

Is there a product like the Vox amplug2 that is bluetooth and works with earbuds.
I often find that I have time to practice late at night when the family asleep. However I can't really turn on the amp and go boom.
I am not a fan of corded headphones. They feel bulky on my head. I was wondering if a bluetooth product that pairs with earbuds existed.
 
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The latency that is typical of most Bluetooth products makes using them to amplify your bass for practice impractical, IMO. You can use them to amplify music to play along with, but not for your bass signal, which pretty much needs to happen in real time. There are low-latency Bluetooth codices, but I haven't heard of anyone using them for this purpose. It seems to me that a lag of even a few milliseconds between the time you play a note and when it sounds would be disconcerting at best.
 
The latency that is typical of most Bluetooth products makes using them to amplify your bass for practice impractical, IMO. You can use them to amplify music to play along with, but not for your bass signal, which pretty much needs to happen in real time. There are low-latency Bluetooth codices, but I haven't heard of anyone using them for this purpose. It seems to me that a lag of even a few milliseconds between the time you play a note and when it sounds would be disconcerting at best.
This.
As of today, no such device is available in the consumer market that allows for bluetooth earbuds to work with a latency that is usable.
 
I don't know how Boss can make these claims but they seem to say it's possible!

"And, with ultra-low latency levels and premium sound, cutting the cables doesn’t mean sacrificing audio quality. Powered by a rechargeable lithium-ion battery, Waza-Air Bass provides up to five hours of continuous use for extended jam sessions. Want to play along with your favorite songs? Waza-Air is Bluetooth compatible, so that you can stream from any mobile device as well as control volume and playback right from Waza-Air Bass' built-in controls.
"
https://www.sweetwater.com/store/de...s-waza-air-bass-guitar-wireless-headphone-amp
 
I don't know how Boss can make these claims but they seem to say it's possible!

"And, with ultra-low latency levels and premium sound, cutting the cables doesn’t mean sacrificing audio quality. Powered by a rechargeable lithium-ion battery, Waza-Air Bass provides up to five hours of continuous use for extended jam sessions. Want to play along with your favorite songs? Waza-Air is Bluetooth compatible, so that you can stream from any mobile device as well as control volume and playback right from Waza-Air Bass' built-in controls.
"
Boss Waza-Air Bass Guitar Wireless Headphone Amp
I believe this is due to the fact that the latency has occurred before you actually hear the music that you will be playing with, as implied in Agedhorse’s post above. The Boss device itself uses Wi-Fi. It’s a pretty pricey option for headphone practice (IMO), but I do have the WL-50 wireless system, which was about half the price, and the latency is negligible. It is a few milliseconds, but that really is not discernible.
 
I believe this is due to the fact that the latency has occurred before you actually hear the music that you will be playing with, as implied in Agedhorse’s post above. The Boss device itself uses Wi-Fi. It’s a pretty pricey option for headphone practice (IMO), but I do have the WL-50 wireless system, which was about half the price, and the latency is negligible. It is a few milliseconds, but that really is not discernible.
Well, it sounds like the Boss Waza air is the OPs answer then.
 
I believe this is due to the fact that the latency has occurred before you actually hear the music that you will be playing with, as implied in Agedhorse’s post above. The Boss device itself uses Wi-Fi. It’s a pretty pricey option for headphone practice (IMO), but I do have the WL-50 wireless system, which was about half the price, and the latency is negligible. It is a few milliseconds, but that really is not discernible.
Correct, the headphone link is low latency, the playback link is Bluetooth (where latency doesn’t matter)
 
Not what you asked but take a look at the PJB Double Four. It sounds like a great bass amp but you can sit it on a desk and play at very soft volume without losing fidelity. It’s sleepy kid friendly. It’s even hotel room friendly.
I have one. It is awesome. I also have a nano. but as I get older I seem to find myself up around 2-3 am with nothing to do.. I don't want the wife to remove body parts in my sleep
 
yep, good article.

And those reading it will see the spec of 32ms as the absolute lowest latency possibly using a very specific technology stack in both the sender and receiver, and even at that it states that for music it is generally considered best to run the latency settings at 60ms (or was it 50ms?)... which I would presume is to avoid glitches or errors of some kind, or possibly some form of inconsistency in the latency when running closer to their current tech limit of 32ms.

32ms is not acceptable latency for playing music in real time.... you can hear it and feel it, although at FIRST LISTEN in a store it might seem to be perfectly real time, you will quickly get annoyed by the timing issues when you start playing very time sensitive things. Also since the lag would be heard in your own bass's monitoring in your wireless headphones, it will start to drive you bonkers.

And 50ms is quite an obvious lag.

As an audio engineer, I use roughly 25ms and higher as an audible effect for stereo spreading through panned delays. Less than that and it becomes a comb filter when heard alongside the undelayed signal if there is any blend between left and right (or if you are monitoring through speakers rather than headphones).

So with BT5 even with the fancy tricks being used to minimize latency, they still can't get it low enough to be truly satisfactory. You can probably live with it in many situations, but it would drive me nuts I know.

However, if anybody DOES release a product, or has already, using that latency value, and ALL audio goes through that delay including the instrument you are playing, then it will be interesting to try it out at a store.

Maybe it is fast enough for some people to be happy with!

SIDE QUESTION:

I wonder if there is older, no longer popular, wireless headphone tech that has lower latency than 32ms?
Was analog radio faster?
What about the light transmission wireless headphones?
I've always wondered about those systems for this type of product.
 
Is there a product like the Vox amplug2 that is bluetooth and works with earbuds.
I often find that I have time to practice late at night when the family asleep. However I can't really turn on the amp and go boom.
I am not a fan of corded headphones. They feel bulky on my head. I was wondering if a bluetooth product that pairs with earbuds existed.
Corded earplugs. The audio technica ones are pretty good.
 
I don't know how Boss can make these claims but they seem to say it's possible!

"And, with ultra-low latency levels and premium sound, cutting the cables doesn’t mean sacrificing audio quality. Powered by a rechargeable lithium-ion battery, Waza-Air Bass provides up to five hours of continuous use for extended jam sessions. Want to play along with your favorite songs? Waza-Air is Bluetooth compatible, so that you can stream from any mobile device as well as control volume and playback right from Waza-Air Bass' built-in controls.
"
Boss Waza-Air Bass Guitar Wireless Headphone Amp

I, too, have one of these, and it's the best. Built-in amp effects, tuner, drum machine... zero latency that I can tell. It is the bomb.com.
 

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