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Tuner Hole Too Big...Fixed!

Discussion in 'Hardware, Setup & Repair [BG]' started by ponticat, May 4, 2010.

  1. Cut plug. Trim plug. Flush sand plug. Refinish.
    Naaah, that's too time consuming.

    Make a bigger bushing!
    In this case the existing holes are just slightly too big for a satisfactory fit. I cut some aluminum tape strips the depth of the bushings and wound the strips onto the bushings to increase the diameter. In my case I cut the strips 10" long which proved to be a correct guess. Your strips may vary depending on the diameter increase you need.

    JRA and bound'n'blocked like this.
  2. Bevo1995


    Nov 8, 2009
    Heart o' Texas
    Oh, I can't wait for the "you should have used copper tape" comments.
    sissy kathy and bound'n'blocked like this.
  3. Great idea!
  4. Aluminum sounds better :)
  5. ubnomnar

    ubnomnar Supporting Member

    Dec 28, 2009
    So Cal
    Aluminum is lighter, too. I'm sure I saved a few micrograms over using copper tape.
  6. testing1two

    testing1two Supporting Member

    Feb 25, 2009
    Southern California
    best tuner for metal?
    bound'n'blocked likes this.
  7. songwriter21

    songwriter21 I have an obsession for wood. The musical kind. Supporting Member

    Jul 31, 2005
    Pittsburgh, PA
    Sponsored by Hipshot
    Yes, I'm resurrecting this thread, but for a very good reason...this exact dilemma! My Peavey US Cirrus has a few tuners that have too much play, imo, so this is EXACTLY what I needed to find. Thanks, man!
  8. A nice idea, indeed. Mooneymoola (kinda phoenetic for aluminum spelled backwards) would fill the gap and not deteriorate like cloth or plastic tape with adhesive.
  9. iiipopes

    iiipopes Supporting Member

    May 4, 2009
    I used plain, cheap masking tape on a Epiphone guitar with a couple of loose tuners about a decade ago that for awhile was my main performing instrument on guitar gigs. It is still holding up.
  10. RedJag


    Mar 2, 2016
    I recently got some Hipshot Ultralite USA tuners in 3/8” size for my Warwick Corvette. They were a little on the loose side as mentioned in this thread, and the tip about using tape to shim the bushing was a lifesaver. It’s unfortunate that it needs to be done but it allows for a perfect fit.
  11. Whats the best tape for metal?
  12. RedJag


    Mar 2, 2016
    Metal tape. Duh.
  13. Best aluminum tape tuner bushing fix for metal?

  14. Memorex was the correct answer
  15. yelemusic


    Nov 22, 2009
    Hi there. Dunno if that's old news, but I was recently confronted with tuner holes that were ever so slightly to large, so the bushings would wiggle in them. These were already those conversion bushings to mount vintage tuners in modern holes. However, since the guitar, that should get these new tuners, was a really cheap Tele kit, these holes were of course not drilled to well. Filling the holes and re-drilling was therefore out of the question.
    I read people saying that one could use a thin strip of veneer to fill the gap, or apply super glue to the inside of the hole, but none of these suggestions clicked with me.

    You guys know this 2k power putty, that comes in rolls, of which you cut of the desired amount and knead it to a homogeneous mass?

    So I plastered a little bit of that stuff around the inside of each hole, used a screwdrivers shaft to really mold it to the inside, pressed the bushings in, removed excess and waited. Even right after the procedure the bushings were tight in there, but to be safe I waited 24h before restringing. What can I say, it seems to have worked beautifully! The stuff gets rock hard, and I can't see the bushings ever coming loose again by themselves! And it was quick! It took not more than 5 minutes! I have to say I am pleased with the outcome :)

    I hadn't read about people using this putty for this purpose. So I thought I'd share, so this neat little trick can be added to all the other neat little tricks people come up with in luthiery :)

    However, if this is common knowledge, and only I didn't know, please forgive me for wasting your time ;)

    BTW, happy new year! :)
  16. RedJag


    Mar 2, 2016
    Seems messier than necessary. I had amazing luck with the tape and it ensures that things are perfectly centered.
  17. yelemusic


    Nov 22, 2009
    No, not messy at all, and very quick. Tape didn't work so well for me, as it doesn't always stay in place, nor is one layer always enough, and the more layers the more it gets complicated...
    As for perfectly centered: One can put the machines in while the stuff is still a little soft, and make sure they line up nicely. Once it's cured, everything stays perfectly in place anyway.
    Oh, and did I mention it's not messy at all? Not even fiddly, as using tape is!
  18. 96tbird

    96tbird PLEASE STAND BY

    I have used that product on things other than instruments and can attest that it’s really tough stuff. I was hitting some excess scraps with a hammer to test it and was surprised at how hard it was. And it really sticks well to clean metal, wood and even plastic if you rough it up well.

    Now I wouldn’t go using it on a high value instrument, but for a project Like yelemusic’s There’s nothing wrong with it. His alternative was to fill and redrill : invasive, or partially fill with something tough. The epoxy putty he used filled the bill and I agree with him that on certain projects, it can be put to good use.

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