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Tuning Peg Keeps Breaking

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Motioneso

May 4, 2007
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Dallas, TX
www.caterpillarstx.com
#1
I just finished a gig. It went pretty well, aside from my freaking D Strong Tuning Peg Breaking... Again. This is the third time this year it has happened. I've replaced it both times before. I assumed the first time was a fluke (maybe got banged hard while traveling or something) but the second time I figured something was up. I made sure to string it properly and checked the setup to make sure there wasn't something crazy happening. So now in the middle of the set I notice my D string seems a little flat... I go to tune it and it won't tune up any, only down. When I try to tune it up the key turns but the post will not wind in the string (by that I mean it doesn't move at all.) Tuning down works just as it should, except maybe a little too good... I'm absolutely confused and frustrated... The last two times they this happened when I tried to tune them up the post eventually snapped free... I rarely play on the D string (I'm of the play higher on the neck school), so it's not like I'm wailing away on it!

Any ideas at all?
 
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These are the Gotoh-style tuners on an Ibanez SR 305 DX, yes?

Can't absolutely say for sure, but it could well be that the securing nuts on the headstock face are too tight.

I had a really cantankerous tuner on my Aria SB-900 a while back - it was a pig to adjust, really stiff - & found that this was the cause.

Here's a photo of the tuner I replaced:

Tuner.jpg


The arrow points to a gouged out portion of the securing thread, the locknut was pinching the threaded barrel against the tuning post which was starting to score. Sooner or later something would have sheared.

Take the strings off & slacken all the nuts off, then wind them up until they're finger tight & then give them a "nip" with a spanner - about a quarter turn should be plenty, just enough for them to hold.

Pete.
 
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#6
Maybe I missed it but..

What kind of tuners are you using?
Gotoh
Gotoh Style
Schaller
Wilkinson
Sperzel
Hipshot
Grover
Inexpensive replacement with chrome plated plastic button
Nylon/Plastic geared

Too many variables to come up with an answer.
 
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Thanks for the responses everyone. I was using the gotoh-style Ibanez tuner for this string, but I just recently replaced it with a Gotoh tuner from the Bass Emporium in Austin in time for my gig on Sunday. Hopefully this one stays solid for awhile. I think Deathblade's post may have nailed this one. I'll see if I can snap some pictures of the broken tuner (if its still around...)

Thanks again!
 
#8
Motioneso said:
I just finished a gig. It went pretty well, aside from my freaking D Strong Tuning Peg Breaking... Again. This is the third time this year it has happened. I've replaced it both times before. I assumed the first time was a fluke (maybe got banged hard while traveling or something) but the second time I figured something was up. I made sure to string it properly and checked the setup to make sure there wasn't something crazy happening. So now in the middle of the set I notice my D string seems a little flat... I go to tune it and it won't tune up any, only down. When I try to tune it up the key turns but the post will not wind in the string (by that I mean it doesn't move at all.) Tuning down works just as it should, except maybe a little too good... I'm absolutely confused and frustrated... The last two times they this happened when I tried to tune them up the post eventually snapped free... I rarely play on the D string (I'm of the play higher on the neck school), so it's not like I'm wailing away on it!

Any ideas at all?
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Don't feel bad bro. I have an Ibanez srx and I have the same problem. D string tuning peg replaced a year ago,and today it broke again. Guess these tuning pegs are just junk. Had. Fender Jazz for 35 years and never had any hardware problems. Good luck!
 
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I had the same thing happen with tuners on a Squier Delonge Strat.

Deathblade Eric said:
These are the Gotoh-style tuners on an Ibanez SR 305 DX, yes?

Can't absolutely say for sure, but it could well be that the securing nuts on the headstock face are too tight.

I had a really cantankerous tuner on my Aria SB-900 a while back - it was a pig to adjust, really stiff - & found that this was the cause.

Here's a photo of the tuner I replaced:

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The arrow points to a gouged out portion of the securing thread, the locknut was pinching the threaded barrel against the tuning post which was starting to score. Sooner or later something would have sheared.

Take the strings off & slacken all the nuts off, then wind them up until they're finger tight & then give them a "nip" with a spanner - about a quarter turn should be plenty, just enough for them to hold.

Pete.
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#16
I'm going to get some precision tuners and try to replace the gotoh tuners,because I've lost faith in them. I can't afford hipshots,and on the originals,the screw that goes to string peg is about as thick as a matchstick. No wonder they snap. Well I'll let you know after I measure distances of peg holes and base of precision pegs.
 
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DennisM said:
I'm going to get some precision tuners and try to replace the gotoh tuners,because I've lost faith in them. I can't afford hipshots,and on the originals,the screw that goes to string peg is about as thick as a matchstick. No wonder they snap. Well I'll let you know after I measure distances of peg holes and base of precision pegs.
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What you are using are Gotoh style and not true Gotoh tuners (other than the one you've replaced). I can pretty much guarantee that the real Gotoh tuners won't break. It's the imitation, or licensed versions that are bad.
 

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