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Two dipsticks, one boat, 1 1/2 paddles.

two fingers

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My best friend and I make a habit of going on adventures we are nowhere near qualified to handle. We once hiked part of the Appalachian Trail we had NO BUSINESS taking on. After the @$$ whipping we got from that we found out that the section we were hiking is regarded as one of the most difficult parts of the entire trail. We wore the wrong clothes. We took the wrong food. We took the wrong (too heavy) gear. It wasn't a total loss. We saw some amazing scenery. I would do it again.

Fast forward to yesterday. I like to kayak. I do it all the time in marshes, ponds, lakes, and the canals around our beach place. I do short trips.... so short I rarely take anything with me....other than perhaps two beers. But my buddy and I decided to kayak down a river from a town near me, through two other towns, and to yet another town.

How did we prepare? We didn't. What did we research? Nutn. We did wear lightweight, breathable, high SPF clothing. We did bring plenty of water, Off bug spray, sunscreen, some protein bars and some fruit. I had one small pistol with snake shot and one with regular bullets in case of gator sightings.... or the sound of banjos. That's about it.

We knew nothing about river current. (We learned a lot about it the hard way at the beginning of the trip.) We had NO IDEA how long it would take to get from the boat landing near Greenville, NC to the dock at downtown Washington, NC via the Tar River. We had guessed somewhere between 3 and 10 hours. :D We had no idea where we would stop and stretch our legs, or take a pee break.

We did what we do. We picked a day. We packed some food. We took off. We hoped for the best.

"As the crow flies" it was 14 miles +/- from one landing to the other. But we had no idea how long it was following the curvature of the river.

Are we up to speed? Two guys. Not enough experience. Not NEARLY enough information. No idea about how the trip would go,, how long, where to stop, etc.

Away we go!
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Here's the rig. Perception Tribe 13.5 ft. tandem kayak. He had a backpack. I had the clear container on the back. Two paddles (more on that later).

We're off!
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One of the coolest things to me is these outer walls of the river where water has exposed half the roots of a big tree. (I love trees. I'm a tree dork.)

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Country river folk know how to live. They have an actual home back off the river, and a "hangout" over the water. If this were mine, I would sleep out here 5 days a week.
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This was the most amazing part of the trip. We kind of coasted while we got settled in. There was fog on the water. I was sipping coffee. We must have seen 100 deer still munching on grass and azaleas in people's yards before lying down for the day. Birds of prey were fishing all around us. Huge cranes, ducks, bald eagles, hawks, etc. were flying all around. Fish were breaking the water all around us. One water moccasin slithered by to our right but freaked out and took off when he saw us. Nature was everywhere.

This river has flooded in a big way twice in the last 20 years. Many of the properties along the shore were abandoned. I guess after two massive floods it just wasn't worth it to keep up the river place.
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So after I finished my coffee, we did a solid hour of paddling. We didn't go as fast as we could go. Rather, we paced ourselves and kept it in "third gear" for the hour. Then we stopped and assessed our situation. Aw crap. We hadn't gotten as far as we thought. We weren't even a quarter of the way.... not even close. We both had a couple of river tracking apps on our phones. We took a minute to do some math. And reality set in. We were going to either take it easy and get there by dinner, or paddle pretty steady most of the way and get there by early/mid afternoon. The idea of paddling for 4-6 more hours seemed..... daunting. So we devised a plan.(Pro tip: Devising a river kayaking plan when you're already 2 or 3 miles down river is too late. That's a free tip form yer ole Uncle Twofer.)

We commenced to paddling, stopping only to take a swig of water or an occasional picture.

Another hour or so in we needed to stop, stretch our legs, eat a snack, and pee. We stumbled across a "Memorial Park" of sorts. It was a strange place, but pretty cool. We could see back in the woods a few hundred yards. There were no signs of life. No houses. Only a beautiful little dock and this memorial stone. In order to avoid offending anyone by hiking around their property, we stuck mainly to the dock.
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A Kind Protein bar and a banana later, it's off again. Let's mount up! By the way @catcauphonic the Luna sandals handled the trip like a champ. I usually don't wear super loose clothes like this but I've lost almost 30 pounds in the last 8 or 9 months. Note the orange end of my paddle right by my foot.
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No more had we gotten in the water good and one end of my paddle broke off!!!! If you don't kayak you may not know that kayak paddles have a paddle on both ends. And you paddle "left right left right". Canoe/boat ores have a paddle on ONE end, and you paddle on whichever side you need to to turn the boat.

Suddenly, less than halfway through, I had a canoe ore. Well crap. There's a lot less efficiency of motion when you have to completely pick it up and move it to the other side.... and switch hands. But that's where I was. So we had to press on.

We Saw some neat stuff. A capsized boat with graffiti on it...

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Some nature...

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As we got to wider and wider parts of the river, more creeks merged with the Tar. That made for stronger currents.... which we desperately needed. The river began to help us when we needed it the most.

One more stop. This is another abandoned flooded property. This dock didn't look old at all. If I had to guess I would say it was built just before the last flood a few years ago. Their hangout has obviously been under water. Sad to see such a pretty piece of riverfront property being wasted. But I can understand why someone wouldn't want to go through flooding twice.

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It was getting toward noon and we had one long last leg to go. We decided to paddle it in. We knew we were getting to our limits. We needed to land this boat.

We knew we would cross under several bridges. None of them mattered until this one...the Hwy 17 bypass on the East side of Washington. That meant we had less than two miles before we docked this floating @$$ whipping we were on. My buddy stopped for a thumbs up when we saw the bridge.
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We were tired. I mean really tired. As noted earlier, we had not worked out to prepare for this. While we're not in bad shape, we're not in twenty-miles-of-paddling shape either. The thought of a nice meal at a waterfront bar in town gave us an extra push. Giddy up!

Passing under the bypass was a moral victory.
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And around one more turn we saw the "old bridge" going into downtown Washington!

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We were almost home free! We limped in on tired arms and 1 1/2 paddles.
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We landed! (Note the missing end of my paddle.)
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Two giddy adventures had pulled out of Greenville around 7:45 a.m. Two whipped and hungry bastards landed in Washington barely under 18 miles later at 1:20 p.m.


I have been eating ridiculously healthy lately. But we hit up a bar/restaurant called "Down on Mainstreet". I had a fantastic burger (Sorry I was so hungry I didn't stop to take a pic) and a couple cold beers to celebrate.
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We learned a lot. We shared some stress and some laughs. We did NOT learn our lesson, though. We'll pick another adventure soon. And we'll bite of more than we can chew... again. We will stretch ourselves beyond our limits. But it'll be fun. By the time we loaded up the boat, ate, drove back, and patted each other on the back a few times, I got home to my women (who were glad I hadn't died of stupidity) and one more nice scene.
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It was a good day.
 

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Oh boy.
I enjoyed that report just as much as one of @BassCliff 's gig threads.
You're an idiot, of course, and reading that (with the Deliverance duellin' banjos music in my head) I was truly hoping you'd make it home safely.
I'm sure you've read Bill Bryson's Walk Through The Woods about his Appalachian Trail adventures...I believe Robert Redford made a movie of it...this had just as much potential for disaster!
Looking forward to your next escapade!
And now you've got me thinking of kayaking again...I've done a very little of it, on holidays before, and loved it. Hmmm...:)
 
Oh boy.
I enjoyed that report just as much as one of @BassCliff 's gig threads.
You're an idiot, of course, and reading that (with the Deliverance duellin' banjos music in my head) I was truly hoping you'd make it home safely.
I'm sure you've read Bill Bryson's Walk Through The Woods about his Appalachian Trail adventures...I believe Robert Redford made a movie of it...this had just as much potential for disaster!
Looking forward to your next escapade!
And now you've got me thinking of kayaking again...I've done a very little of it, on holidays before, and loved it. Hmmm...:)

I'll take that as a compliment! @BassCliff is a good story tellers!

And, yes, get your butt back in a kayak. The whole trip was great. But first thing in the morning, with the fog, deer, birds of prey, fish, sunrise, etc. was nothing short of "zen". It was the best place ever to sip on my morning coffee.
 
I don’t think you’re an idiot. That’s just the kind of adventure I’d engage in. And I love kayaking.

I once signed on for a 50 mile bike ride in Northern Michigan with a buddy. Of course I didn’t train for it. I ride my bike all the time. No problem, right? By mile 25 I thought I was gonna die. But I got over the wall and the last third wasn’t bad. The next morning we had to get up at sunrise to ride over the Mackinac Bridge. I was stiff, saddle sore and my muscles ached, but it was worth it.
 
I don’t think you’re an idiot. That’s just the kind of adventure I’d engage in. And I love kayaking.

I once signed on for a 50 mile bike ride in Northern Michigan with a buddy. Of course I didn’t train for it. I ride my bike all the time. No problem, right? By mile 25 I thought I was gonna die. But I got over the wall and the last third wasn’t bad. The next morning we had to get up at sunrise to ride over the Mackinac Bridge. I was stiff, saddle sore and my muscles ached, but it was worth it.

Yeah, I have a pretty OK mountain bike. "Logic" would dictate that after a hiking butt whipping and a kayaking butt whipping the next step would be some sort of cycling butt whipping. :D
 
Awesome! I love hearing about stories of people just jumping in and working through the pain to find the fun. Great rundown!

Not to derail, but I did similar a few years back for my 40th on the New River on the NC/VA line. We loaded up canoes, like we were car camping. Literally each canoe was 100 lbs over limit (coolers, full size tents, dogs). The whole week before it had rained and we went anyway. We had no idea the water was up 3 feet. That meant fast. Everyone tipped and took on water at some point. Really only suited for kayaking that day. Destination was an island in the middle of the river like 5 crow miles down.

I can tell the whole story, but suffice to say that we had to get the axe out to cut my boat out of trees because the current literally shot us up the bank into a bramble. Everything went wrong.

Best trip of our lives!

(been back each year since)
 
Awesome! I love hearing about stories of people just jumping in and working through the pain to find the fun. Great rundown!

Not to derail, but I did similar a few years back for my 40th on the New River on the NC/VA line. We loaded up canoes, like we were car camping. Literally each canoe was 100 lbs over limit (coolers, full size tents, dogs). The whole week before it had rained and we went anyway. We had no idea the water was up 3 feet. That meant fast. Everyone tipped and took on water at some point. Really only suited for kayaking that day. Destination was an island in the middle of the river like 5 crow miles down.

I can tell the whole story, but suffice to say that we had to get the axe out to cut my boat out of trees because the current literally shot us up the bank into a bramble. Everything went wrong.

Best trip of our lives!

(been back each year since)

That sounds amazing! It wouldn't bother me at all if you get into more detail when you get a minute. Do you have any pics of your canoe stuck in a tree???? That would be framed on my office wall if it were me. :cool:
 
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My best friend and I make a habit of going on adventures we are nowhere near qualified to handle. We once hiked part of the Appalachian Trail we had NO BUSINESS taking on. After the @$$ whipping we got from that we found out that the section we were hiking is regarded as one of the most difficult parts of the entire trail. We wore the wrong clothes. We took the wrong food. We took the wrong (too heavy) gear. It wasn't a total loss. We saw some amazing scenery. I would do it again.

Fast forward to yesterday. I like to kayak. I do it all the time in marshes, ponds, lakes, and the canals around our beach place. I do short trips.... so short I rarely take anything with me....other than perhaps two beers. But my buddy and I decided to kayak down a river from a town near me, through two other towns, and to yet another town.

How did we prepare? We didn't. What did we research? Nutn. We did wear lightweight, breathable, high SPF clothing. We did bring plenty of water, Off bug spray, sunscreen, some protein bars and some fruit. I had one small pistol with snake shot and one with regular bullets in case of gator sightings.... or the sound of banjos. That's about it.

We knew nothing about river current. (We learned a lot about it the hard way at the beginning of the trip.) We had NO IDEA how long it would take to get from the boat landing near Greenville, NC to the dock at downtown Washington, NC via the Tar River. We had guessed somewhere between 3 and 10 hours. :D We had no idea where we would stop and stretch our legs, or take a pee break.

We did what we do. We picked a day. We packed some food. We took off. We hoped for the best.

"As the crow flies" it was 14 miles +/- from one landing to the other. But we had no idea how long it was following the curvature of the river.

Are we up to speed? Two guys. Not enough experience. Not NEARLY enough information. No idea about how the trip would go,, how long, where to stop, etc.

Away we go!
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Here's the rig. Perception Tribe 13.5 ft. tandem kayak. He had a backpack. I had the clear container on the back. Two paddles (more on that later).

We're off!
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One of the coolest things to me is these outer walls of the river where water has exposed half the roots of a big tree. (I love trees. I'm a tree dork.)

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Country river folk know how to live. They have an actual home back off the river, and a "hangout" over the water. If this were mine, I would sleep out here 5 days a week.
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This was the most amazing part of the trip. We kind of coasted while we got settled in. There was fog on the water. I was sipping coffee. We must have seen 100 deer still munching on grass and azaleas in people's yards before lying down for the day. Birds of prey were fishing all around us. Huge cranes, ducks, bald eagles, hawks, etc. were flying all around. Fish were breaking the water all around us. One water moccasin slithered by to our right but freaked out and took off when he saw us. Nature was everywhere.

This river has flooded in a big way twice in the last 20 years. Many of the properties along the shore were abandoned. I guess after two massive floods it just wasn't worth it to keep up the river place.
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So after I finished my coffee, we did a solid hour of paddling. We didn't go as fast as we could go. Rather, we paced ourselves and kept it in "third gear" for the hour. Then we stopped and assessed our situation. Aw crap. We hadn't gotten as far as we thought. We weren't even a quarter of the way.... not even close. We both had a couple of river tracking apps on our phones. We took a minute to do some math. And reality set in. We were going to either take it easy and get there by dinner, or paddle pretty steady most of the way and get there by early/mid afternoon. The idea of paddling for 4-6 more hours seemed..... daunting. So we devised a plan.(Pro tip: Devising a river kayaking plan when you're already 2 or 3 miles down river is too late. That's a free tip form yer ole Uncle Twofer.)

We commenced to paddling, stopping only to take a swig of water or an occasional picture.

Another hour or so in we needed to stop, stretch our legs, eat a snack, and pee. We stumbled across a "Memorial Park" of sorts. It was a strange place, but pretty cool. We could see back in the woods a few hundred yards. There were no signs of life. No houses. Only a beautiful little dock and this memorial stone. In order to avoid offending anyone by hiking around their property, we stuck mainly to the dock.
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A Kind Protein bar and a banana later, it's off again. Let's mount up! By the way @catcauphonic the Luna sandals handled the trip like a champ. I usually don't wear super loose clothes like this but I've lost almost 30 pounds in the last 8 or 9 months. Note the orange end of my paddle right by my foot.
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No more had we gotten in the water good and one end of my paddle broke off!!!! If you don't kayak you may not know that kayak paddles have a paddle on both ends. And you paddle "left right left right". Canoe/boat ores have a paddle on ONE end, and you paddle on whichever side you need to to turn the boat.

Suddenly, less than halfway through, I had a canoe ore. Well crap. There's a lot less efficiency of motion when you have to completely pick it up and move it to the other side.... and switch hands. But that's where I was. So we had to press on.

We Saw some neat stuff. A capsized boat with graffiti on it...

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Some nature...

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As we got to wider and wider parts of the river, more creeks merged with the Tar. That made for stronger currents.... which we desperately needed. The river began to help us when we needed it the most.

One more stop. This is another abandoned flooded property. This dock didn't look old at all. If I had to guess I would say it was built just before the last flood a few years ago. Their hangout has obviously been under water. Sad to see such a pretty piece of riverfront property being wasted. But I can understand why someone wouldn't want to go through flooding twice.

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It was getting toward noon and we had one long last leg to go. We decided to paddle it in. We knew we were getting to our limits. We needed to land this boat.

We knew we would cross under several bridges. None of them mattered until this one...the Hwy 17 bypass on the East side of Washington. That meant we had less than two miles before we docked this floating @$$ whipping we were on. My buddy stopped for a thumbs up when we saw the bridge.
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We were tired. I mean really tired. As noted earlier, we had not worked out to prepare for this. While we're not in bad shape, we're not in twenty-miles-of-paddling shape either. The thought of a nice meal at a waterfront bar in town gave us an extra push. Giddy up!

Passing under the bypass was a moral victory.
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And around one more turn we saw the "old bridge" going into downtown Washington!

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We were almost home free! We limped in on tired arms and 1 1/2 paddles.
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We landed! (Note the missing end of my paddle.)
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Two giddy adventures had pulled out of Greenville around 7:45 a.m. Two whipped and hungry bastards landed in Washington barely under 18 miles later at 1:20 p.m.


I have been eating ridiculously healthy lately. But we hit up a bar/restaurant called "Down on Mainstreet". I had a fantastic burger (Sorry I was so hungry I didn't stop to take a pic) and a couple cold beers to celebrate.
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We learned a lot. We shared some stress and some laughs. We did NOT learn our lesson, though. We'll pick another adventure soon. And we'll bite of more than we can chew... again. We will stretch ourselves beyond our limits. But it'll be fun. By the time we loaded up the boat, ate, drove back, and patted each other on the back a few times, I got home to my women (who were glad I hadn't died of stupidity) and one more nice scene.
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It was a good day.
Great read. Cheers to adventure!
 
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Oh boy.
I enjoyed that report just as much as one of @BassCliff 's gig threads.
You're an idiot, of course, and reading that (with the Deliverance duellin' banjos music in my head) I was truly hoping you'd make it home safely.
I'm sure you've read Bill Bryson's Walk Through The Woods about his Appalachian Trail adventures...I believe Robert Redford made a movie of it...this had just as much potential for disaster!
Looking forward to your next escapade!
And now you've got me thinking of kayaking again...I've done a very little of it, on holidays before, and loved it. Hmmm...:)

Glad I wasn't the only one who thought of this:
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Thanks for sharing that, uncle Twofie. Sounds like a great trip. When you were describing your lack of planning I was expecting an unanticipated class 4 rapids or something. Tuckered out but safe with a burger and a beer is a much happier ending.
 
That sounds amazing! It wouldn't bother me at all if you get into more detail when you get a minute. Do you have any pics of your canoe stuck in a tree???? That would be framed on my office wall if it were me. :cool:

For real, it was very dangerous getting to the island. Phones/Cameras were the least of our worries. I pulled some pics from camp though.

It was the weekend of my 40th so I gathered my closest friends that were willing to partake. Ended up with 5 of us total. We had two canoes and a kayak. The kayaker was an old friend from OH that met us there. The other 4 of us are from NC. We arrive and see the river was way up. I'm a little apprehensive as it has been a while since I've canoed on moving water. I was assured prior this was calm water, it will be fine.

It was not fine. But, we are "You know I'm gonna send it" kind of people, so we sent it. Loaded up, dropped in, and quickly realized how fast the water was. Now, on this river, high water means one very dangerous thing. The rocks that are typically 3 foot high are hidden just below the surface. The amount of weight we were carrying meant any tip we would catch water. It happened to the kayaker first, his skirt was not on correctly and he took on water and started sinking.

So, I tried to prop him up so he could try anything to fix his situation. We hit a large rock that darn near turned us over and took on water to the point the canoe started to sink. We're out of the boat now. The kayaker is sunk trying to hold his boat as he speeds down the river. My boat mate jumped to gather some of our gear from our boat and the kayak. That left me pulling a drastically over loaded submerged canoe to shore. I am a great swimmer and had my PFD on, but that was so very difficult to pull it ashore. Thankfully I could grab a rock every other step or so. It took me about 400 yards to pull it to shore. I lost my paddle plus the back up (not tied down).

The other canoe faired better until now. Husband and wife with their 100lb german shepherd. They made it to me and helped me bilge the water. We found everything except the two paddles. Everything big was still secure. Kayaker got his skirt right, we had our water emptied and set off.

With my canoe having one paddle. On a river that is 3 feet too high. The New River has some random rock structure and islands giving you Left/Right options. Each time down the river is different depending how the water is. One time left is best, the next right is. Well, we chose wrong once and we ended up in a bottleneck that seemed to double our speed. The water being high put us at the same level as the big tree limbs that typically overhang the water. This super-current shot us up into one of those, and the angle it was on was like running a real boat up a trailer. We shot up into some undergrowth and saplings. Luckily we had a hand axe. A full axe would have been terrible. But we axed ourselves free, while laughing the entire time. We still had a heck of a time getting the boat back into the current. With one paddle.

We did though. Got going and met up with the other two boats. We're finally making our last push to our camping island and we can hear some fast water. We pull off into a calm pool to check it out. We're looking at a section that bottlenecks down to like 10 feet and very fast. Well the other canoe decided to go for it. They went, flipped, rolled, and scattered some gear. The other 3 of us were all prepared, so got it back quickly and them safely to shore.

So I completely unloaded my boat, portaged it for like 40 yards and dropped back in. Another mile later we're pulling up to our island. They said typically there was a little 4 foot beach to tie up to. The beach was gone. The island was a 5 foot straight up bank. We unloaded, set up and relaxed all day. Ate some great food; steaks, potatoes, etc. Then the rain came. We had a nice set up with a big fly, so we were dry in that regard. And my old tent that had seen better days was leaking. 3 of us were supposed to be in there. So two guys slept in camp chairs, whereas I did find a dry area in the tent.

It rained all night. Thunder and lightening 360 degrees around us, right in the vicinity. No separation between lightening and thunder. That close. We sat up for a while under the fly enjoying the storm. We all got a good sleep somehow. Woke up to our typical camp breakfast: egg, livermush, bacon, cheese on english muffin over the fire.

Amazingly terrible, awesome trip!

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RIP Kaya - She passed last year. I went on many a trip with her and her owners. The best adventure dog ever!

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Have to have a food shot, right? Fried in butter, with a little flame kiss.

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The next morning after the storms. It's not what it looks like, it's how it performs. Darn fine shelter! HA
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We built a tripod on the fire to dry things out. Ended up covering the fire with it and had coals the next morning.
On the left, that area is typically full of rocks and log structure. You can barely see it on this trip.

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from the next day. Canoes are much lighter (no food, beer, or water).
**Edit - I think I was using the other canoe's second paddle here, my boat does not have a keel and is hard to keep straight, where there's does.


My first "report" post. Hope y'all enjoyed.

Thanks @two fingers
 

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