ultra short scale

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  1. RDB3

    RDB3

    Nov 4, 2005
    DC area
    There are a few old posts on this but the problem remains... where can you get or how can make 4 strings bass set for the ultra shorties... 24.75" Kay Value Leader Bass, 25.5" Supro Pocket Bass or even some of the 28.5" scale basses. Problems is you need real fat ones for any kinda tension on the shorties. LaBella does not custom make anything like this... I guess 'beggars can't be choosers' in that bet anything out there is are rounds, and I am all about flats. just chopping ones too long, you can't get them thru the little cheap tuners on those things. You would need like Pbass tuners... It doesn't have to look pretty, tho.
     
  2. TheEmptyCell

    TheEmptyCell Bearded Dingwall Enthusiast Supporting Member

    Jul 16, 2005
    Los Angeles, CA
    I'm playing a Squier Mini P bass with the stock strings right now. They are by no means high tension, but you adapt to plucking a little lighter or closer to the bridge. There are a few string manufacturers that might be able to make custom strings for super short scales. And you'd likely have a better chance of getting them made if you go through a dealer like Jason at FretNation.

    You can also measure how long you need the winding length to be on a set of strings, solder it at that point, and then unwind the outer wraps to the soldered spot. Upright players have been known to do this to make particular strings work on differently sized basses.

    My plan with my Mini P is to drill it for through body stringing to take up some of the string length so I can hopefully just use standard short-scale strings, but I've got to find a decent bridge for that first.
     
  3. HaphAsSard

    HaphAsSard

    Dec 1, 2013
    Italia
    The Ibanez Mikro and the Jackson Minion, both 28.5" scale basses, can fit nominally short-scale strings with a 32" winding length ball to silk/taper, if barely. The Fender P-Bass Jr., same scale, had string-through-body loading, so it also could accommodate commonly-available short-scale strings; its successor, the new Squier Mini Precision, has no string-thru and less room between back of the bridge and E-string tuner than the Ibanez and the Jackson, so one has to settle for winding some of the fat part of the E string on the tuning post (though there are a couple light/normal gauge sets that appear to fit fine).

    As for guitar-scale (24~26") electric basses, both old and new:
    1) these puppies (La Bella/Gold Tone MBLS)
    MicroBass LaBella Flat Wound Strings | Gold Tone Folk Instruments
    are essentially a dwarvish version of the Deep Talkin' Bass Flat 760FM set (gauges 49-69-89-109) and appear to be exactly what you need;

    2) for those who like regular strings (steel-core, roundwounds) and big gauges in order to get familiar tensions on a supershort-scaler, Fernandes Guitars still sells the accompanying set to the original, 24" scale Pie-Zo (a.k.a. Nomad) Bass. The set is called PSZ-2000 (gauges 65-80-105-125) and can be found on eBay, including but not limited to here (possibly also through their US importers, Gear Street: the set is not on their website though, one'd need to contact them to confirm if they can get it from Japan).

    Newtone Strings in the UK and Pyramid of Germany do custom work; alternatively you could try and contact Stringjoy, Curt Mangan, Black Diamond or some other small-size company that is Stateside.
     
  4. RDB3

    RDB3

    Nov 4, 2005
    DC area
    Hey thanks for all this info. Appreciated! I did have the 28.5 P Bass Jr. and string thru body was what let it use regular short scale. But this Gold tone scene may be just what I need.
     
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