Unconstitutional A.A.

[DeltaPhoenix]

Come on, even if someone is court ordered to attend meetings they can get around it. There is no way the legal system can verify if someone attended (without ankle monitoring) because it is an anonymous program. I have signed those sheets for people when I have chaired meetings. I don't put my last name, there is no membership lists for the court to double-check. So, if anyone wanted to avoid it, they could.

 

[dj150888]

The repeat of the pattern. Many people get just one DUI and they learn from it. The alcoholic does it over and over again. They can't help it.

I don't buy it at all. The alcoholic has a substance addiction. Driving while under the influence is a whole seperate issue. I don't believe there's any compulsion to drive that goes along with alcoholism. Driving while drunk is nothing to do with whether the person has a compulsion to drink or whether they were just slamming a few brews at the weekend. The alcoholic may be drunk more often, but that just means they should leave the car at home more often.

 

[aborgman]

Right. The recovered addict without a medical degree is about a hundred times more qualified than the "expert" who has not been through it.

...but they show about the same success rates.

 

[aborgman]

Our "rights" will be the downfall of this nation.

Why?

They can still force you to attend some sort of alcohol counseling - they just can't force you to attend a religious form of alcohol counseling.

 

[DreadRaver]

They can still force you to attend some sort of alcohol counseling - they just can't force you to attend a religious form of alcohol counseling.

Actually, no.
They can only force you to go to jail.
Any treatment alternative is voluntary.

 

[Quickie]

Why?

Because the rights that were granted us by the founders at that time had they known what many would do with them today......

 

[DeltaPhoenix]

Actually, no.
They can only force you to go to jail.
Any treatment alternative is voluntary.

+1

 

[Quickie]

Actually, no.
They can only force you to go to jail.
Any treatment alternative is voluntary.

HmmmmI don't know enough about this but I have heard it here (Northern Ca) ordered in a court as part of a plea bargain.


"Judges are increasingly sentencing individuals with DUI- Driving Under the Influence, DWI- Driving While Intoxicated, or DUID- Driving Under the Influence of Drugs offenses to court ordered treatment programs for drugs and alcohol. The goal of this action is to force the individual to participate in a rehab program as an extension of or in substitution for serving out a jail sentence."


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[john turner]

hey, wow, religion -and- politics, and it lasts 5 pages.



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