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Upton vs. New Standard

Discussion in 'Basses [DB]' started by gcj, Nov 20, 2012.

  1. gcj


    Nov 20, 2012
    Trying to decide between Upton bohemian hybrid or New Standard cleveland. Will be used for jazz (Pizzacato).Which do you think is the better bass? Any other recommendations in that general price range.
  2. Better put on some protective gear. you might have just started a small war :)
    I've played a few Clevelands and a few Upton hybrids and carved basses. I'd say you need to figure out if you want a carved or plywood sound. There is no right or wrong decision here but it is a matter of your taste. To me, a carved top gives you a richer more solid tone. If you love the carved sound, the NS may sound a bit hollow. On the other hand if you like an old school jazz sound, dark and puffy, the NS may be better. Not sure which sound you like? Listen to Edgar Meyer and compare it to some old Jazz trio music. Now, the trio bassist may be playing carved but it will still give you an idea of the contrast between the more defined carved tone vs the puffier more mysterious plywood sound.
    Now I`ll let the TalkBassers unleash their corrections and condemnations.

    Good luck either way.
  3. Try both . I don't think any opinion here will be better than first hand experience.
  4. lowEndRick


    Apr 8, 2006
    Played both, own one of them. Two completely different animals. +1 to Dave Irwin's post.
  5. I've played a UB Standard plywood and a Cleveland. Both were excellent.

    Where are you located? A TB member in northern Alabama just posted his 2012 Cleveland for sale, and today Upton put a Deluxe Hybrid on ebay at an attractive price.
  6. gcj


    Nov 20, 2012
    I live in salt lake city and the humidity is fairly low. Would the hybrid bass be ok in low humidity?
  7. Violen

    Violen Instructor in the Vance/Rabbath Method Banned

    Apr 19, 2004
    Kansas City Metro Area
    Endorsing Artist: Conklin Guitars (Basses)
  8. I live with an Upton hybrid in Laramie which is 3,000 feet higher in elevation than SLC. Research humidifiers on this forum and use one and you should be fine.
  9. drurb

    drurb Oracle, Ancient Order of Rass Hattur; Mem. #1, EPC

    Apr 17, 2004
    +1. I'd add that the "old school" jazz sound has been, is, and will be nicely produced with a carved top. In fact, most of the basses one hears on recordings producing that old school sound are carved basses. Indeed, a ply typically has a "puffier" front end and "thump" that tends to decay more quickly than a bass with a carved top. Dave and others are right on target that it really is a matter of preference and you have to play them. Independent of the maker and independent of the practicalities of caring for the instrument, my opinion is that a bass with a nice carved top is preferable in all cases save, perhaps, for the rare exception of certain genres in which the "thump" of a ply bass seems to sometimes fit better.

    Again, whether the Upton you mentioned or the Cleveland are more suited to the sound that YOU are after is something you'll have to decide. It could even be that a third alternative fits the bill better for you.
  10. Ed Fuqua

    Ed Fuqua

    Dec 13, 1999
    Chuck Sher publishes my book, WALKING BASSICS:The Fundamentals of Jazz Bass Playing.
    Dave, you know that you can get either a hybrid or a fully carved Cleveland or La Scala, right?
  11. Yup, but I dont think thats what he was talking about.
  12. drurb

    drurb Oracle, Ancient Order of Rass Hattur; Mem. #1, EPC

    Apr 17, 2004
    The prices of the two basses he mentioned are comparable if you assume he was referring to the Cleveland ply.
  13. I live in Salt Lake City too, moved here from NYC 4 years ago. I have a hybrid bass with a carved top, that moved here from NYC with me. It's been fine. As far as the choice of which bass for you. I can't top the advice given already.
  14. Steve Swan

    Steve Swan

    Oct 12, 2004
    Burlingame, California
    Retailer: Shen, Sun, older European
    This price range offers all sorts of choices in newish and vintage basses. It will be interesting to see what the final choice will be. Enjoy the hunt!
  15. eerbrev


    Dec 6, 2009
    Ottawa, ON, CAN
  16. Chris Fitzgerald

    Chris Fitzgerald Student of Life Staff Member Administrator

    Oct 19, 2000
    Louisville, KY
    There is no better advice anywhere. Your going to spend several K$$$ on whatever you decide to go with. Take both ladies to dinner and see which one feels like talking to a soulmate and which one feels like discussing the weather and checking your watch. If both feel like the latter, look elsewhere.
  17. garbanzo


    Mar 27, 2011
    Also being in SLC, I'm interested in what you find locally, as I'm on the hunt.