Paul - I've been having a page loading problem here at TB for some time. Each time I come to TB, it takes a very long time to load the first ten or so pages I visit, then it speeds up considerably. This is unique to TB - I regularly visit other Vb-based pages with no problems. I'm on dialup, XP Pro, IE 6 with automatic checking for updated versions of stored pages set. Is there some kind of load on visit happening here, maybe for subscribed threads? I'm at a loss.