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WA TB12 with bass

Discussion in 'Recording Gear and Equipment [BG]' started by villis, Aug 10, 2019.


  1. villis

    villis

    Mar 20, 2012
    Greece (Xanthi)
    Hello guys i just bought WA TB12 and i am considering to rec my bass using this chain

    Bass > hi z input WA TB 12 xlr out > hi z input Avalon U5 line out trs cable > return input of Audient iD 22

    Ok is this is a good choice to use the preamp of WA TB12 and from Avalon only as DI and then bypassing Audient's pre ?
     
  2. And I

    And I Supporting Member

    Feb 19, 2009
    Witchtown, MA
    I personally would just try the tb12 into the audio interface using an XLR to balanced 1/4" cable. I do that same thing with different mic pres and audio interface now.
     
  3. villis

    villis

    Mar 20, 2012
    Greece (Xanthi)
    Ok i will try it! Bypassing audient`s pre or using her di?
     
  4. And I

    And I Supporting Member

    Feb 19, 2009
    Witchtown, MA
    I'm not familiar with the I/O on that particular interface... i use the line in on mine. I wouldn't mess with the DI input for this situation, the preamp is your DI.
     
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  5. If you only want to experiment, o.k., but otherwise it is an absurd use of the WA12. You use a mic-preamp with a Hi-Z-input as a DI. The job of a DI is to transform a Hi-Z signal to mic-level. This is exactly what the WA12 is doing, but it is doing even more: 'cause it is a mic preamp it transforms the mic-level signal to line level.
    The Avalon is a bit special, 'cause it is doing exactly the same: it offers not just mic-level as most DIs, but line level too. So both of your units are doing exactly the same. Only the WA12 has - as a mic preamp - no mic-level output. And the Avalon - as a DI - has no line level input.

    Only line-level comes out of the XLR-out of the WA12. To put this line level signal into another DI into an input that expects a pure guitar or bass signal (Hi-Z) doesn't make any sense.

    If you want to use the sound of the Avalon + the TB12 in your chain, it goes like this: bass into Avalon. Then the mic-level output of the Avalon into the mic-in of the TB12. Or the line-level output of the Avalon into the TRS-input on the front of the TB-12 that is switched to line (simply press the line button on the right of the Hi-Z button on the frontplate.) The Avalon should always be first in the chain, 'cause it simply doesn't have a line input, but all of the outputs of the TB12 are line level. I only own the TB12, not the Avalon. If I understand the through TSR output on the front correctly this gives Hi-Z level output, so if this is the case you could although use the Hi-Z input of the TB12 if you're using the through output on the Avalon.

    Why did you buy the TB12? You don't seem to have the basic knowledge what a mic-preamp or / and a DI are doing?
    If you don't have a second use for the WA12 - using it as a mic-preamp for vocals for example - you kind of own two rather expensive tools that do the same in a different way. Might have made more sense to - for example - buy the WA76 from Warm Audio. Just saying...
     
    Last edited: Aug 10, 2019
  6. villis

    villis

    Mar 20, 2012
    Greece (Xanthi)
    Ok i got it! I experience problems with my avalon... something is defected and this is the second time doing that issues so i was thinking of selling it and thats why tb came. But then i want to ask here the forum to see if these both units can combine somehow! So from what i get right now i am thinking after fixing and selling avalon maybe pair the tb12 with wa76 :)
     
  7. villis

    villis

    Mar 20, 2012
    Greece (Xanthi)
    Thank you guys for the knowledge!
     
  8. That is a very good idea. I first bought the WA76. You need line level for the WA76, so I got a mic-preamp from GAP and later the TB12. The WA76 - this is just my personal taste and experience - had a far bigger impact on my sound than the preamps. After buying the WA76 I had the impression after many years of playing - that I sound like on a record. This said: I'm not into amp sounds or distortion etc. at all. I just like to plug in directly with a bit of transformer sound and this is what the WA76 besides very fast compression gives me.
    Compared to most footpedal compressors - maybe with the exception of the Cali76 - the WA76 sounds much better.
     
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  9. villis

    villis

    Mar 20, 2012
    Greece (Xanthi)
    Yes i am at the same boat, only recording direct no mics and cabs!

    Now i am using a plugin compressor MJUC Overview with very good results but i want WA76 for sure!

    When i will buy wa76 you must tell me everything you know! hahaha
     
    Last edited: Aug 11, 2019

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