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Might sound stupid... but I dumped my 410 and went to a 610 only because it was easier to transport. I've got smaller gear for when it's needed, but IMHO I have an easier time moving a 610 than carrying a 210, and especially dealing with multiple cabs.
The older I get, the more I favor making 2 light trips, than 1 heavy one. Which is to say, I greatly prefer carrying 2 30 lb 210s than 1 60lb 410. A pr of Ampeg SVT-210AV's are ridiculously easy to move around and add up to a 4 ohm 4-10. 26lbs each
Relatively light and powerful when needed, with expandability?
IMO GK MB212 (500W 4 Ohm) with MBP212 (500W) extension.
Obviously other good combos abound, but lovin' mine.
Fool proof IMO.
Good luck.
IMO GK MB212 (500W 4 Ohm) with MBP212 (500W) extension.
Obviously other good combos abound, but lovin' mine.
Fool proof IMO.
Good luck.
You do realize that Fender acquired and killed the GB brand a few years back...? I would agree that another 112T would pair nicely, but they don't show up very often on the used market. Those that have 'em are keepin' 'um.
@agedhorse can chime in whether the Mesa Boogie Subway 112 or 115 would play nicely with the GB cab.
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The Shuttle 112 does show up on TB classifieds and Reverb from time to time, be patient.
The Subway series would work fine with the Shuttle series, the basic tuning philosophy is the same though the alignment and Q is not identical.
The Subway series would work fine with the Shuttle series, the basic tuning philosophy is the same though the alignment and Q is not identical.
Get another GB112 and try it out. You'll be amazed how loud and full a couple 112's would sound coupled on a good stage. I have a pair of Eden 110EX's and love the deep bass I get out of them. Eden also makes 112EX cabs that are relatively affordable and stacked as a pair would get pretty loud.
Can't go wrong with a GK 212 or a pair of GK112's either. Of course the Genz and Mesa stuff and cream of the crop.
Can't go wrong with a GK 212 or a pair of GK112's either. Of course the Genz and Mesa stuff and cream of the crop.
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My vote is for a GK 2x12.
Those cabs are superlight and sound fantastic. They go low , rather transparent ( not too much color added )
And can get very smooth or bright.
Plus 2 12s. Are 1/2 as many speakers to worry about vs a 410 , and also a lot less metal involved . which means your watts go farther.
My 412 is louder than my 810
Those cabs are superlight and sound fantastic. They go low , rather transparent ( not too much color added )
And can get very smooth or bright.
Plus 2 12s. Are 1/2 as many speakers to worry about vs a 410 , and also a lot less metal involved . which means your watts go farther.
My 412 is louder than my 810
Not many out there but I found this, I added to cart so apparently they have one.
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I won't advise on what to bring, but for the last few years I bring only a Kemper and let the PA do the heavy lifting. It's fun to have an amp behind you from time to time, but for constant gigging, for me nothing beats a Kemper. Both the sound crew and the band loves it, it is super light and I've not been able to get a better sound on stage any other way.
To add a divergent altenative, I play with a Bose L1 with one B1 module and sounds awesome. Also diverging, I don’t use amplifiers that give color to the sound as I rather keep that under the control of preamps and effects.... what you hear is what you can reproduce in any environment or recording.
Back to the weight, these are very modular and easy to transport, weight and size-wise.
Back to the weight, these are very modular and easy to transport, weight and size-wise.
I'm a big fan of Bergantino. Any of his lightweight cabs are worth a look.
If they are a bit too expensive for you, I'd be looking at the Fender Rumble cabs.
If they are a bit too expensive for you, I'd be looking at the Fender Rumble cabs.
this is my rig too. I was running a 2-10 SWR cab for the big rig, but have settled in with the 12s. My second cab is just a Peavey 112PS PA speaker that sits underneath, but it adds a lot of horsepower and gets the better cab up higher. The PA cab is pretty heavy so I am shopping for another light cab. I will admit that I do like the look of the Fender Cabs. The Neo 4-10 looks pretty sweet.
Another vote here for "try your 1x12 first" - it might be enough.
I use a single 1x12 with my band - I went the "super cab" route, using a AudioKinesis Changeling 112 "tall", it weighs about 30 pounds and I pair it with a Quilter Bass Block 800. Like you, I use it only for stage volume: All of our gigs have PA support. My band plays funk, but our drummer is loud. Gain and master volume on the amp rarely go above 50% and it is plenty to keep up with drums, guitar, keys, sax, trumpet, trombone and vocals.
I don't know how the GB cabs compare to "super cabs" such as Barefaced, AudioKinesis and GreenBoy in terms of loudness. If a single 12 is not enough, the most economical option is probably to get a second cab identical to what you already have, but if you're looking at a single cab solution try to take a "super cab" for a test drive - it changed everything for me. I went from multiple trips to/from the car to lug 100 lbs worth of amplification gear alone, to a single trip (bass, amp, cab, pedalboard). Plus the new rig sounds better than what I used to have AND is much louder too, so...it truly was a win-win-win.
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I use a single 1x12 with my band - I went the "super cab" route, using a AudioKinesis Changeling 112 "tall", it weighs about 30 pounds and I pair it with a Quilter Bass Block 800. Like you, I use it only for stage volume: All of our gigs have PA support. My band plays funk, but our drummer is loud. Gain and master volume on the amp rarely go above 50% and it is plenty to keep up with drums, guitar, keys, sax, trumpet, trombone and vocals.
I don't know how the GB cabs compare to "super cabs" such as Barefaced, AudioKinesis and GreenBoy in terms of loudness. If a single 12 is not enough, the most economical option is probably to get a second cab identical to what you already have, but if you're looking at a single cab solution try to take a "super cab" for a test drive - it changed everything for me. I went from multiple trips to/from the car to lug 100 lbs worth of amplification gear alone, to a single trip (bass, amp, cab, pedalboard). Plus the new rig sounds better than what I used to have AND is much louder too, so...it truly was a win-win-win.
There are so many choices available these days. I have been using several neodymnium lightweight cabinets (112 and 210) including: Bergantino, Epifani, Markbass, EBS, Genz Benz, Gallien Krueger and Hartke. Each had its own voicing. I loved some of them, liked all of them.
My experience: pair of 112 cabinets is sufficient most of the time, pair of 210 cabinets is sufficient for any of my gigs...
My experience: pair of 112 cabinets is sufficient most of the time, pair of 210 cabinets is sufficient for any of my gigs...
I bought an ampeg pf-800, pf-115, set the volume and said that’s How loud I’m playing. We had agreed we were too loud, but somebody needed to take the first step.
Get your band to turn down!
Get your band to turn down!
Can't believe the Genzler 12-3's haven't been mentioned. At 34 pounds it's a light weight pants flappin' good time. I have two with a Shuttle 9.0. This is my set up that I can load in/out in one trip. Bass and head in their bag over the shoulder and a cab in each hand.
