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Was the first bass you built respectable?

Kamrin

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Hello, I've recently though about building a bass. Right now I'm thinking that I build one it's going to be an awesome instrument. However, I have no experience with woodworking at all and I'm worried that in the future when it's done it'll not be so awesome, or even be a POS.

What do you think/know for your experience?

Is your first bass being pretty "meh" inevitable?
did your first bass turn out to be hot mess? or did it turn out great?
(pics would be cool as well)

and if your first bass did turn out bad, about how many did you make before you created what you'd call a nice bass?

thanks!
 
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Hello, I've recently though about building a bass. My current thought is that If I did it I'd make a high quality well playing bass, that looks very good as well. However, I have no experience with woodworking of any kind and knowing myself my first instrument would turn out pretty "meh".

What do you think/know for your experience?
Is your first bass pretty "meh" inevitable?
did your first bass turn out to be hot mess? or did it turn out great? (pics would be cool as well)

and if your first bass did turn out bad, about how many did you make before you created what you'd call a nice bass?

thanks!

My first bass plays very nicely, but lets just say I have learned alot as far as design goes, and even more so with finishing. My second bass was a disaster that has long sense been salvaged for its hardware and electronics. I think by my 4th bass I would say I really started producing some quality work.
 
My first bass turned out excellent . Its the pic in my avatar . Sounds , looks , feels , plays fantastic . It's going to be as good as you make it . I researched for almost two years before I started my build . Do your research , ask questions and find out what tools you just can't live without and buy everything . While your getting all the necessary stuff you can be reading and talking to builders and start framing out your plans .
Buy a roll of masking paper and draw your plan out life size and work from there .
 
Mine is passable, but has some issues. The finish is not very well applied, the back should have been sanded a lot more, and the body edge profiling is pretty weak. But it is playable and sounds good.

My second was better, but some of the tolerances weren't as great as I would have preferred. And the finish isn't grand either.

Number 3 and up are pretty good I think.
 
My first bass turned out excellent . Its the pic in my avatar . Sounds , looks , feels , plays fantastic . It's going to be as good as you make it . I researched for almost two years before I started my build . Do your research , ask questions and find out what tools you just can't live without and buy everything . While your getting all the necessary stuff you can be reading and talking to builders and start framing out your plans .
Buy a roll of masking paper and draw your plan out life size and work from there .
That's a gorgeous bass from what I can tell in your avatar pic, have any more pics?
Also that's encouraging to hear. I will have plenty of time for research and design as it will be several months before I can actually get started on it.
 
I'll see about some more pics for yall . Yeah its a lot to know to really pull it off . The BEST advice is work on it an when you want to don't force yourself to do it on bad days , just leave it alone . I made everything on my bass including the pickup . Don't let me fool ya , it was way more than I could chew . I had some really bad days and a whole lot of frustration but on those days I just walked away and got my head right then attacked it again later . No doubt in my mind you can do it .
 
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My first build was unique for a few reasons. Firstly, it was not solely my own, as I was thirteen years old and my dad, a skilled woodworker by trade, helped me build it. Despite his knowledge of the material, though, I knew little about bass, as I had been playing less than a year, and neither did he (never played an instrument in his life).

We decided on a mahogany body (like a Gibson!) with a bolt on neck (like a fender!) and two small pickups, like a Rickenbacker (based on the fact that it must have been the nicest bass ever- the Musicians Friend catalog didn't even want to put the price in print!).

The end result was interesting. The two pickups were guitar humbucker size and spaced unconventionally, the headstock kind of looked fender-y but had an angle like a Gibson, and the five-piece-maple-and-sapele-bolt-on neck with unfinished ebony fretboard was unique to be sure. As a final touch, we sprayed it with a few thick coats of clear poly- automotive grade. To sum if up, we had no idea about the principles of bass design.

It had high action and a thick neck, and we strung it with EB Slinky 50-110 and didn't bother to intonate the damn thing for a week. But I played the hell out of it- at least to the meager extent of my abilities. It was my first "real" bass- up until that point I had been playing a rogue beginners bass with year old dead strings and a rattly bridge.

To be sure, this bass did not play well or sound particularly good, but it taught me so much about bass playing and the instrument itself.
I learned that you can change the strings on a bass to make it sound better.
I learned that lighter strings make the bass easier to play, but not before I had superman calluses and strong fingers.
I learned that the screwy bits at the butt end of the bridge are for intonation and how to adjust them.
I learned that the truss rod is an integral part of the bass and how to adjust the neck relief with it.
I learned that not all pickups are created equal, and swapped my EMG Selects out for some SGD Lutherie pickups.
I learned that not all pickup builders are created equal, or at least their business senses aren't.
I learned that different woods and pickup configurations make different sounds, and why my bass sounds so unique.
I learned that nut slots are a big part of a bass' playability.
I learned that once nut slots are deep enough to get low action, frets need to be level and even.
I learned that a bridge can be moved to accommodate proper intonation.
And I learned that a proper setup and the right strings can transform a bass.

I learned all of those things and made all of those changes to my bass over a period of five years, and over that one, my bass has become part of me. It's now the best playing bass I've ever held in my hands and it feels like an extension of me as a player and as a person. Maybe because it's a labor of love, even after the final coats of finish have been applied. Maybe because I've played it nearly every day for over five years.

But I can tell you that my first build, although not my last, will be my number one for the rest of my life, and has been the best thing I've ever done as a player.

Finally, here's my Número Uno, in all of it's glory:
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I've seen a few guys build their first bass with "little woodworking experience" and have been totally blown away by the quality produced. Personally it took me a few tries to hit my stride.
 
Nope... it's not even finished yet hahah. It's taken me a long time to get to the point where I realize, luthierie is one of those hobbies/businesses/way to pay the bills that requires the right tools. You can't cheap out, and if you do, what's the point? Sure, you can build a great bass with minimal tools (the posts above are great evidence of that) but if you cheap out and don't do your research, you'll probably end up like me: big aspirations, too many projects, no end of project in sight.

I've been trying my hardest with this hobby for probably 5 years now, and I've never come up with an instrument I am totally happy with. The main reasons are 1) I try to do things my own way, as opposed to what is recommend by the many smart and generous people here who share their secrets of the trade. 2) I'm not using the right tools for the job, which is a big no-no. 3) I'm going into the builds thinking that a great instrument will pop out the other end. This is probably my most fatal flaw. I get so caught up in trying to imagine this wonderful instrument handed down from the gods, that I forget to enjoy the ride. If you can't enjoy what you do, there isn't much point in doing it.

I hope to purchase a lot of the correct tools for this hobby once I get started working, and actually selecting good pieces of wood too. A lot of the building process is in how you prepare yourself to start.
 
My very first bass was not respectable, but it looks okay sitting on a stand in the living room. I don't like to count that one. I made it in 1 semester in high school wood shop and I didn't have time to do any routes for electronics/pickups, I sanded the fretboard too narrow, and the body needed to be thinned down (or fingerboard higher) to allow for decent string action. Oh, and the truss rod rattles. My friend used to pick it up and play it every time he came over and he said it had "natural distortion".

BUT, my first bass since researching and reading through threads on this forum, which is the one I like to call my first, is perfectly fine other than some cosmetic things that came up. I've played it at shows and band practices with no problems. It sounds better than the big-brand bass I had before that.

I made a guitar after that which plays/sounds great and I also like that more than my $1250 guitar I had, which I didn't think I could beat. But I still had a lot of things come up during the build that I had to fix.

Then I made a fretless bass and that would probably be the one I would consider being the one where they started to make me feel that I wasn't just making mistakes throughout the build and spending more time fixing mistakes than actually building the thing.



It's different for everybody.

Advice: Be patient and don't set a time limit. Also, make lots of plans.
 
I started off modifying my main bass into something almost unrecognizable as far as electronics and so forth are concerned. My first "builds" were assembly projects. Those all are pretty respectable.

What I call my #1 and #2 builds I actually cut the bodies and made my own own necks and so forth. #1 is an unplayable mess that I'm pretty sure will explode when put under string tension. I built #1 and #2 simultaneously, so many of the mistakes I made with #1 didn't get made with #2. However, I wouldn't call #2 respectable. It plays, has a pretty good setup and I really like it, but there are many things wrong with it, from a design and execution standpoint. I'll play it, and I'm sure when the time comes, I'll play it out in a band situation and whatnot. But respectable? Nope.

#3 is coming along pretty well. I'm at the place where all major mistakes that can be made have already been made, and I expect it will be pretty respectable.
 
My first instrument was actually a guitar. Respectable? That probably depends on your criteria.

It plays and sounds great, so from that perspective it is quite respectable.

It looks hideous, so from that angle it falls quite short of being respectable.

I use it for recording, but it's ugly so it no longer leaves the house. I've got pictures and full documentation of the build on my website: http://tundraman.com/Guitars/001/index.php
 
I've kept threads for all the things I've made. I think it is fair to say I am getting a little better each time I tackle a project. Was the first one respectable? In that it played well enough and sounded good, yeah. The finish was horrible, though! My last one was much nicer in all respects, but I still need to work on the finer details around drilling, routes, etc.

To concur with some of the other guys on this thread, I think the main thing I got out of my first build was the experience.
 
I've been lurking here for a while, but I am on my second build and I'd say my first build was decent. ('59 Les Paul attempt) I know that I could've done better with the neck and the fretwork, but that's just something to work on.
 

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