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Michedelic

MId-Century Modern
Jun 18, 2013
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Yucca Valley/Joshua Tree
Lead guitarist and occasional vocalist for the band, he led their reunion/revival in the 2000’s with many guests from Lemmy to Marshall Crenshaw, then assembled a group featuring Soundgarden’s Kim Thayil and Faith No More’s Billy Gould to tour in 2019 to mark the 50th anniversary of Kick Out The Jams….
MC5’s Wayne Kramer Dead At 75



Many other great tunes besides the obvious one, this track exemplifies total rock’n’roll in attitude and execution…


Teragram Ballroom, L.A., August, 2019
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This one really hurts. Got to see Wayne on the MC50 tour in Detroit a few years back, but also met him several times and got to know him a little bit and even went to prison with him for one of his Jail Guitar Doors programs. He was a very kind guy and truly worked hard to help people who had made mistakes in their lives, like he did early on, grow from them and not let it define them. Plus his music kicked ass of course!
 
Sad news. Apparently Wayne was stricken with pancreatic cancer. The most pernicious of afflictions as it presents only at stage IV or worse. As we age, I can only advise y'all to get regular checkups. I ignored a weird burning back pain for many months that turned out to be stage III multiple myeloma.
RIP Brother Wayne Kramer. Launched lotsa musical boats with the MC5.

NOW For My Wayne Kramer Story

In 1980, I was in a punk band in Ann Arbor, MI called The State. We were ok, had a few decent gigs but weren't all that remarkable. We were offered an opening spot with Wayne Kramer and Johnny Thunders' GANG WAR at the VFW Hall on Liberty St. "Cool!" We said.

We showed up and banged out a sound check. Johnny Thunders was already there and was friends with the sandwich band btw us and GANG WAR. I don't recall their name.

Anyhow, we banged out an insignificant set of noxious tones and we're stage-managed off, the 2nd band banged away and then came GANG WAR.
By this time Johnny was blitzed! I mean, w a s t e d ! Stumbling, barely standing. He plugged in and he and Wayne started with Ramblin' Rose. The same one we enjoy from the MC5's Kick Out th' Jams! Wayne was taking the gig seriously and sounded like Wayne. Johnny was making noxious guitar sounds while being propped up by advocates. During the show, Wayne would walk over and just turn Thunders' amp OFF! This was hilarious to all of us as Johnny would then rake away, drunkenly look down at his guitar, and then his amp, and realize, something was off. He'd turn it back on and commence with the fork in the garbage disposal guitaring again...until Wayne shut him off again.

We felt for Wayne and the rest of the band having to suffer this but, it was entertainment.


Attached is a blurry promo from a show a few days later down the street. I have a few of these in a box.

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I can still recall my head spinning for about three weeks after hearing the "Kick Out The Jams" album for the first time...45 or so years ago...wow...

RIP, sir.
I lived in Flint, MI at that time. It was all over the regional AM stations. The kids brought transistor radios to school the following days and whenever it was cued up, they'd all crank their radios.

I never realized the MF version was the actual version 'till years later. I learned it when I borrowed a friends copy of the record to make a cassette copy of it. "WHOA!" was my reaction.
 
This one really hurts. Got to see Wayne on the MC50 tour in Detroit a few years back, but also met him several times and got to know him a little bit and even went to prison with him for one of his Jail Guitar Doors programs. He was a very kind guy and truly worked hard to help people who had made mistakes in their lives, like he did early on, grow from them and not let it define them. Plus his music kicked ass of course!
Mike Davis and Ron Ashton (Stooges) used to rehearse at our Ann Arbor house when they were in Destroy All Monsters. Mike & Ron were very nice to us and scored us great opening gigs at venues we'd never other wise gotten into. Davis and I used to have turntable wars at local keggers as he was dating a friend of my girlfriend's at the time. MD showed me the chords Fred Sonic Smith used when he first showed the band Shakin' Street. Very cool era of my life to have met those guys along with Scott Ashton (Stooges), Cheeta Chrome (Dead Boys), Johnny Thunders, Scott Morgan (Rationals) among other who often gigged at the same venues we played and hung out at.
 
Mike Davis and Ron Ashton (Stooges) used to rehearse at our Ann Arbor house when they were in Destroy All Monsters. Mike & Ron were very nice to us and scored us great opening gigs at venues we'd never other wise gotten into. Davis and I used to have turntable wars at local keggers as he was dating a friend of my girlfriend's at the time. MD showed me the chords Fred Sonic Smith used when he first showed the band Shakin' Street. Very cool era of my life to have met those guys along with Scott Ashton (Stooges), Cheeta Chrome (Dead Boys), Johnny Thunders, Scott Morgan (Rationals) among other who often gigged at the same venues we played and hung out at.

That's crazy cool. Did you happen to meet or know Mike Kelley? His art studio here in L.A. was very close to my house; within walking distance.