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Wearing out my fingers...

Is that true, or is it just something someone once said that people have come to believe? Are they using actual crazy glue, as in the same chemical compound? Or something that surgically glues wounds together that seems to work just like crazy glue?
About 10 years ago, I was fishing in the middle of nowhere in France.....

I cut my right thumb very badly, couldn't stop the bleeding with band aids etc. and so, on the advice of one of the guys that I was fishing with, slapped about half a tube of regular superglue straight into the cut.....

The bleeding stopped and when the glue hardened I put a regular band aid over the wound.....

Didn't have any more trouble from the wound for the rest of the 3 week trip.....

Not sure how this would work in a bass playing situation however.....
 
I was right there with you a decade go. We were getting after it hard. We once did 14 days in a row with a double on one Saturday. We also did three shows on another Saturday...three full four hour shows. We also got crazy and broke the previous record at a club by playing over 4 1/2 hours with no break. (We even ordered a pizza from stage and I ate pizza with my right hand while tapping out a bass line with my left. ;) )

Here's what worked for me.

1) Your calluses should build up at some point. At that time in my life, if I tapped my plucking fingers on a table it sounded like you were tapping the table with a ball point pen. They still sound kinda plastic to this day. I have no feeling whatsoever in the last 1/4" of my index and middle finger.

2) Brother, trust me here. Get down with a pick. It took me well over 15 years of playing to cave and start learning with a pick. You could probably find posts of mine from years ago here where I blasted picks and pick players. I have seen the light for several reasons. First off, it gives you another weapon to create a different sound (never mind a sound that would kill in your GnR songs just to name one artist). Second, it gives you a safety net. Get a bad cramp in your plucking hand? Grab a pick and work it out when the song is over. Cut your plucking index finger on your wife's bra hook? No biggie. Grab a pick and go to work. Go to a shop and buy every color in the rainbow of picks (cuz their cheap) and use what works for YOU. I use everything from the ones that feel like a plastic quarter to the ones that feel like piece of a milk carton. My mic stand pick holder looks like a bunch of squished Skittles. I grab whatever pick works best for a given song or technique.

I am still primarily a finger player. But I am equally as comfortable with a pick. Anything I can play with my fingers I can play with a pick.

3) Get down with the side of your thumb. If you are playing in a party band your are bound to be breaking off some Motown and ballads. Wanna cop that Jamerson tone? Use the side of your thumb to pluck up by the board. No he didn't do it that way. But was wasn't a regular mortal human either. Wanna cop a fat round upright sound? Same thing. Yes, the side of your thumb will be sore for a little while too. But once it's up to speed, it will give your other fingertips a well-deserved break. Just use the bottom of a pickup as a "tug bar" and anchor point. Then stroke downward with the side of your thumb. I don't mean thumbing like Larry Graham where you drop the hammer on the string. I mean plucking like you do upward with your index finger, only downward with the side of your thumb. This one will won't require nearly the practice that a pick will. In fact, you can implement this technique the next time a ballad is called your very next show. I am currently working on my upstroke as well. No, I don't need Victor Wooten licks. But it does add yet another dimension to it that could prove useful later on. Just like using a pick, you don't have to do it up by the board. It works just as well near the bridge and offer even more tonal variety. I have gotten so sure with it I can do it without even anchoring these days. It almost looks like I'm holding a pick but I'm not.


You get those other techniques up to par and not only will you have half a dozen new tones at your disposal, and a safety net for injuries and pain, but you will give your fingers a break so they probably won't hurt as bad anyway.


Best part? No pills! :D

Congrats on having lots of work!

"Cut a finger on your wife's bra hook..." LMFAO.
 
If you rely on callouses you have to manage them with sanding, moisturizing etc. Also take a play from the climber handbook; use this stuff after each set. Or similar.
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Oh, CLIMB on. For climbers. I thought that was some sort of intimate lubricant. Like, "Climb on, honey." Sorry, Twofer's bra hook comment below put my mind in the gutter. Yes, I frequently read in reverse order.
 
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I played in metal bands that required plucking strings rapidly for hours and I feel your pain.. just want to say that I used to play 5-6 hours a day, 6 days a week as well before that as I was a full-time bass player. I recommend boosting your volume and get used to playing with a lighter touch. This way you can focus your energy and strength on playing the intricate parts well without loosing your strength and speed if that makes any sense. It did for me at least. Also, I got used to use my three fingers (index, middle, and ring). You don't have to do it exactly as Billy Sheehan does (I vary my index and middle with the index and the ring) and this allows me execute playing longer sets with no problem.
 
I have dealt with this issue from day one of my bass-playing career. Everyone says "build up your calluses" but mine never have and never will. I used to do the glue and play through it thing, but that can get pretty miserable.

I have since, in the last 7 or 8 years, switched entirely to flats or tapes. No more issues.

That may not be what will help you, but it completely fixed me right up. There are so many flats and tapes that cross into rounds territory that it's not a problem for me at all.
 
I'm in the super glue camp. I had a night where a blister started up on my index and middle fingers, the index the worst, I started switching off between fingers until the one on the index finger burst. Then the one on the middle finger burst about two songs later. The rest of the night was agony. I don't use a pick but tried that night. I even asked at one point if any of the females in the crowd had any fingernail polish so I could coat my fingers but no luck. I always make sure I have superglue in my bag now.

I agree with what two fingers said above. I am now trying to work a pick in some in some songs.

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Another thought, (it's early morning here so they're coming in short bursts) is to learn the "flamenco" technique Geddy Lee uses. Especially if you're playing lots of 8th or 16th notes, half the notes are played with your fingernail and the other half (the down picking notes) use a different part of your finger to normal, so it spreads the load a little. It took me a lot of work to get it right, but I find it pretty useful now.

This has helped me too...

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I get terrible dry hands during the winter, and I've been using super glue to seal cuts for the past few years. It works well.

I would definitely look into using face grease or something else to reduce friction. If you need to go with the pick, try gorilla snot. When I started playing with a pick regularly, I kept on having hand cramps because I was gripping the pick too hard. Gorilla snot really helped a lot.
 
First, for anyone that doesn't know me, I'm not a newbie. Been playing over 30 years, always active, have toured lots with lots of different groups, played in bands that play 5X a week, yada, yada...

My new band however is a new animal. I've had a string of gigs like never before. Played 7 shows in the past 2 weeks, and they're all three 1 hour sets of fairly high energy music. In between those gigs I'm learning new songs, so I'm playing now more than ever before.

My right hand fingers are for the first time ever getting ripped to shreds and I have to do something about it. It's painful and I'm starting to get concerned about permanent damage, or infection. I started using a liquid band-aide thing before playing, but it only helps minimally. It allowed the cut to heal, but my finger is raw, and if I don't lay off the bass for a couple of days it's going to open right up again.

I've heard of the crazy glue method of doing things, but I'd like to know more. Anyone know if that can cause serious damage to an open wound? Is it a safe thing to do? Does it really work?

Are there any other options aside from the idea of lightening up, which I have - but sometimes don't want to.

I may have to resort to a pick playing till this thing heals completely, but I don't want really want to do that either, unless absolutely necessary.

Thoughts? Help? Info on crazy glue? Experience?
The crazy glue thing works. I have a lot of experience with sports medicine and am seeing ER stuff now. Its been used a lot in a pinch but it helps harden the calluses by burning them and letting them become stronger. Rock climbers use it a lot and I've never seen hands harder than on a serious rock climber.
 
We all pay a price for our art. I used to give plasma at BioLife and they used a fingerprint check-in procedure. It rarely worked for me. Apparently, all the decades of me being a photographer, loading large sheet film, tray processing thousands of large prints, loading watercolor paper into inkjet printers has left me with very little ridge detail left. Perhaps a career in thievery awaits for my unique features now.

My dad was a professional photographer years ago. I have used sandpaper with less grit than his hands have. Years ago, when he would type, his fingertips would split so bad he would leave blood on the keys. I always said if he was a thief the police wouldn't be able to get prints from him.

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