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Weird fret-placement on Warwick Thumb - explanation?

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by ratzpaul, May 14, 2005.


  1. ratzpaul

    ratzpaul

    Aug 19, 2004
    Europe
  2. grooveguru

    grooveguru

    Sep 14, 2000
    Central PA
    Nope I can't
     
  3. paintandsk8

    paintandsk8 Pushin' my soul through the wire...

    May 12, 2003
    West Lafayette, IN
    Wow, that is definetly something I have never seen before. Maybe it was for playing certain types of oriental music where semi-tones are regularly used. :eyebrow:
     
  4. If I'm not mistaken, thats a microtonal fretboard.
     
  5. embellisher

    embellisher Holy Ghost filled Bass Player Staff Member Supporting Member

    The fret spacing on that Warwick is designed for just intonation.


     
  6. ratzpaul

    ratzpaul

    Aug 19, 2004
    Europe
    Thanks for the info, unfotunately, as I'm not a native english speaker, I'm not sure if I got the point about Just Intonation correctly.

    Does this mean the frets are placed in positions where the actual harmonics can be found on a "normal" bass?

    thanks once again,
    paul
     
  7. artistanbul

    artistanbul Nihavend Longa Vita Brevis

    Apr 15, 2003
    Turkey-Istanbul
    its not about bass. it can be applied to any instrument. there were different intonations before the now used equal spaced (is that the right english term?) method. one being just intonation.

    here is a simple ruler:

    just intonation note system spacing in cents:
    c = 0
    d = 203.91
    e = 386.31
    f = 498.04
    g = 701.96
    a = 884.36
    b = 1088.27
    C = 1200

    equal spacing system:
    c = 0
    d = 200
    e = 400
    f = 500
    g = 700
    a = 900
    b = 1100
    C = 1200

    so the only true harmonic note in a equal spaced system is the octave of the string.

    and there is also a basic pythagorian intonation system which is off topic.

    IMO though, playing fretless would be a better choice. :)
     
  8. ratzpaul

    ratzpaul

    Aug 19, 2004
    Europe
    ah, ok thanks, I think I got it.

    Very interesting IMO - time for me to try out a fretless to discover the harmonics between the frets!

    thanks guys!

    greetz
    paul
     
  9. Aaron Saunders

    Aaron Saunders

    Apr 27, 2002
    Ontario
    Agreed. Almost 80% of all fretless users are microtonal players! Now, whether or not that's intentional...;)


    Note: That statistic is made-up. It's probably actually higher.
     
  10. [ NG:E ] Asuka

    [ NG:E ] Asuka

    Apr 8, 2005
    Very interesting!

    I'd love to play one!
     
  11. embellisher

    embellisher Holy Ghost filled Bass Player Staff Member Supporting Member

    And that explains why a slightly flatted major 3rd doublestop on a fretless sounds more consant than a major third played on a fretted.