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What a witch hunt

bigfatbass

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I don't mind if a mod deletes this, but since the original thread was locked I wanted to post this somewhere.

The way some TBers crucified the guy trying to add $1000 "handling" to his admittedly sketchy parts bass auction was shameful. A mob-rule moment that this place should be above.


Possibility 1). He IS actually an idiot

Possibility 2). He risked having his account banned with 100+ universally positive feedbacks, and his name raped across every bass BBS on line in order to save $12.50

Possibility 3). He is deliberately scamming in order to get someone to commit to paying $1000 more than they thought for the instrument.

Who of you wouldn't take a single bad feedback for welching on an auction that tried to do that? With the new policies ebay would probably wipe your negative anyway if he really was trying this scam.

Now I'm not saying I know for sure this guy is/was any of the above or something even worse, just that if someone had approached the numbnut firmly, but politely, pointing out he was in violation of ebay policy and he should re-list, then there wouldn't be 6 pages of sparring and piling on that had to be locked.
With the volume of attacks this guy recieved in a matter of minutes, how would YOU have responded in the same situation? I bet you'd come off a little huffy too, dontcha think?
I'm all for policing ourselves as best we can, and I'll be one of the first to jump on a soapbox when I feel the consumer is being done wrong, but come on. That was a bit excessive.
 
I agree...adding a thousand dollars after you started the auction is a jerk thing to do...he probably didn't have much faith that his bass was going to sell for much, so he added the thousand dollars...or maybe he decided he didn't want to sell it so had to do something to make it look unattractive...i think he got what he deserved...anyways, its like going to the store to by grocerys and then the cashier adding a hundred bucks the the bill...you'd get upset too

of course there is always the chance that he meant to say add 10.00 to the bill, in which case he should have caught that...
 
bigfatbass said:
With the volume of attacks this guy recieved in a matter of minutes, how would YOU have responded in the same situation? I bet you'd come off a little huffy too, dontcha think?

It's always best practice to respond in kind when someone is being attacked.....sh-yah, right.

Honestly, if I was in that situation, I would have to ask myself what I have done to elicit such an angry response. I would not volley back angry comments and throw fuel on the fire.

-Mike
 
bigfatbass said:
Wait a minute, I might have missed somehting that would change my opinion. He posted the $1000 up charge AFTER listing the auction? If that's the case rape him with a stick. My bad. I thought he was just an idiot.


As was posted on the other threads about this auction, the $1000 charge is against eBay policy even if he included it at the start of the auction. The reason is that this is an attempt to circumvent eBay fees, which are based on the closing price of the auction. Whether or not he is clueless about this policy and its justifications is immaterial, just as ignorance of the law is not an alibi in a court room. As a participating member of eBay, it was his responsibility to know the rules.

Anyway, I wouldn't be surprised at all to see this bass pop up for sale again, as I seriously doubt the validity of the closing bid.

And dude, you need to stop with the rape imagery. You're making me ill.

Matt
 
This is a smart thread. You object to the guy getting raked over the coals, so you start another thread so we can do it all over again.

Judging by the feedback of the winning bid, I would say that someone stepped up to officially challenge this guy. I e-mailed the guy, told him I was in San Diego and wanted to see the bass before I bid. He told me that the bass wasn't in San Diego and that he couldn't show it to me. He couldn't tell me who built it. He couldn't tell me whether it was a parts bass or whether it was truly custom made. Scam.
 
stringbass69 said:
As was posted on the other threads about this auction, the $1000 charge is against eBay policy even if he included it at the start of the auction. The reason is that this is an attempt to circumvent eBay fees, which are based on the closing price of the auction. Whether or not he is clueless about this policy and its justifications is immaterial, just as ignorance of the law is not an alibi in a court room. As a participating member of eBay, it was his responsibility to know the rules.

Anyway, I wouldn't be surprised at all to see this bass pop up for sale again, as I seriously doubt the validity of the closing bid.

And dude, you need to stop with the rape imagery. You're making me ill.

Matt


YOU MEAN YOU THINK FRED KELLY ISN'T A REAL BIDDER?:D
 
Fred Kelly's feedbak page said:
Comment From Date / Time Item #


Refused to purchase item after winning auction!
Seller sibson2005 ( -1 ) Apr-13-05 09:02 7312683099
Reply by fredkelly1: Seller is not the owner of this bass - musicmanbassman.fotopic.net/c346729.html Apr-15-05 17:09


This buyer is a scam artis!!SCAM!!!!It wanted to steal my unit! no payment!
Seller k9ued ( -1 )
no longer a registered user Aug-04-04 16:59 3739525862
Reply by fredkelly1: Seller used fake info to register with ebay. Refer their feedback profile.


pwned
 
groov'ster said:
LOL, that is funny. Got pics?
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