What about Jam bands??

[lfmn16]

I know. It seems a bit taboo to say it out loud. The guy is technically great, but I just could never get into his stuff, try as I might.

I don't think most TBers have a problem with someone not liking Victor or Jaco, it's the disrespectful manner in which the opinions are often expressed.

Back to the subject of the thread, I'm not sure what point the OP is trying to make. Playing in a jam band that does 20+ minute jams requires a completely different mindset than the other players he mentioned have. It doesn't make them any better or worse.

 

[On the down low]

I don't think most TBers have a problem with someone not liking Victor or Jaco, it's the disrespectful manner in which the opinions are often expressed.

Back to the subject of the thread, I'm not sure what point the OP is trying to make. Playing in a jam band that does 20+ minute jams requires a completely different mindset than the other players he mentioned have. It doesn't make them any better or worse.

Like I said in past posting on here, just giving a slap on the back kudos to the Jam band bass players. The one's I hear on Sirius XM Jam On station, just really like how they play. I don't understand what part of good job is not understandable, some of these guys play, and never get a WOW that was great.

 

[lfmn16]

I don't understand what part of good job is not understandable, some of these guys play, and never get a WOW that was great.

We always understand our own posts. We don't always understand someone else's. Welcome to the Internet.

 

[On the down low]

I thought this site was about bass players, and all things bass related. Good god! Except for a few who said yes this guy is good, and I like what he does everyone else has taken it the wrong way. I've been a member for 24 hours maybe I need to check the site heading, and make sure it doesn't say " you are now logged into The Six String God Forum". We all play bass, and a lot of times don't get any respect for the craft. So like I said good job to those who play great and are never known

 

[On the down low]

We always understand our own posts. We don't always understand someone else's. Welcome to the Internet.

Not to be an a$$, but, "welcome to the internet" I just thought that was funny since it's so new to have. Thanks for the morning laugh, and I see what you are saying about reading posts different from others. Rock on!!!

 

[Yaphet]

No. Miles Davis is not a jam band.

Miles Davis absolutely was a jam band! Are you familiar with his entire catalogue, especially from the late 60's to mid-70's? His band even opened for the grateful dead!

Ever listen to the albums Agarta, Pangea, On The Corner, Water Babies, Get Up, or any of the numerous live albums from that era?? In my opinion, these are some of the deepest, heaviest jams ever recorded.

I don't blame anyone who doesnt like that era of Miles's music, but he 100% was a jam band. I agree with earlier posters that from Kind of Blue onward, there is a heavy focus on modal improvisation, and it can be called whatever you want... The late 60's-70's are total heavy electric jams with an incredible amount of boundary pushing experimentation.

To get all "dude. Stop." At the notion that Miles fronted a groundbreaking jam band implies that you are unaware of how broad spanning his career was. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with that- It takes years to become really familiar with any artist who's career spans 5 decades, but with all due respect, you don't seem to know what you're talking about on this one.

 

[LukeSlywalker]

Lettuce fan here as well. This is my favorite album



I wouldn't call them a jam band but yes they definitely are in the "jam band" scene. They also have a huge following from jazz and funk fans though.

 

[Plutonium244]

Well, everyone is entitled to there worthless opinion

Right, no one does. The three sold old MSG Phish shows is only because those people love the high quality food at the vending stations. They make a mean giant pretzel.

Being 50 now, I learned a long time ago to appreciate the value and skill of many other forms of music besides the stuff I am naturally attracted to. For example, Motorhead just aint my thing but I understand why some people love it. I appreciate jam bands-- Phish, String Cheese Incident, Galactic, Widespread Panic, etc. I enjoy listening to them sometimes. But-- there is no SINGLE type of music I will listen to endlessly. I am always changing what's in the CD player. Kids, google "CD player" in case you don't know what those are. I realize they don't fit in your iPod. Also GET OFF MY LAWN!

 

[wisconsindead]

Comparing the Grateful Dead to "Jam Bands" is like comparing Kenny G to Coltrane. If you can't hear the difference, I'm sorry.

You do get that the Dead essentially created the jam band scene though right? I get where you're coming from, I listen to dead all day everyday and they are completely unique and not what I would call a jam band today. Playing country/blues/rock hits isn't exactly what the spun out kids who are typical of the jam scene come for. But they started the whole thing, like it or not. The jam band label began with them, they didn't invent jamming by any stretch. But the term jam band refers to groups out of which the grateful dead essentially started.

 

[On the down low]

Right, no one does. The three sold old MSG Phish shows is only because those people love the high quality food at the vending stations. They make a mean giant pretzel.

Being 50 now, I learned a long time ago to appreciate the value and skill of many other forms of music besides the stuff I am naturally attracted to. For example, Motorhead just aint my thing but I understand why some people love it. I appreciate jam bands-- Phish, String Cheese Incident, Galactic, Widespread Panic, etc. I enjoy listening to them sometimes. But-- there is no SINGLE type of music I will listen to endlessly. I am always changing what's in the CD player. Kids, google "CD player" in case you don't know what those are. I realize they don't fit in your iPod. Also GET OFF MY LAWN!

Food is good at a jam festival, but you need it for the munchies you get. Did I say munchies sorry I meant after listening to a one hour song I get hungry.

 

[Plutonium244]

I thought this site was about bass players, and all things bass related. Good god! Except for a few who said yes this guy is good, and I like what he does everyone else has taken it the wrong way. I've been a member for 24 hours maybe I need to check the site heading, and make sure it doesn't say " you are now logged into The Six String God Forum". We all play bass, and a lot of times don't get any respect for the craft. So like I said good job to those who play great and are never known

BTW, don't let anyone tell you your opinion is not valued around here. TB is for everyone at every level who loves bass. Like any place, some people are rather self-rightesously opinionated. Welcome to TB. It's a great forum. Just take it with a grain of salt. Your opinions are welcome.

 

[On the down low]

BTW, don't let anyone tell you your opinion is not valued around here. TB is for everyone at every level who loves bass. Like any place, some people are rather self-rightesously opinionated. Welcome to TB. It's a great forum. Just take it with a grain of salt. Your opinions are welcome.

Thank you. Like I said I listen to all types of music, but kind of stuck on the Jam band thing for now. Hell I admit I even listen to the Spa channel on Sirius XM, you know the music with bamboo, and wind chimes.

 

[Plutonium244]

Thank you. Like I said I listen to all types of music, but kind of stuck on the Jam band thing for now. Hell I admit I even listen to the Spa channel on Sirius XM, you know the music with bamboo, and wind chimes.

LOL, I hear ya. Wind chimes can be very soothing.

I appreciate jam bands and listen on XM radio sometimes (it makes good road music because it has a flow to it, IMO) and still, to this day, one of my fave albums is Phish's "Pictures of Nectar" from like a million years ago. Mike Gordon does a pretty cool country ho-down kind of tune on there. He's got amazing skills.

 

[Venom of God]

Well, everyone is entitled to there worthless opinion

Stopped reading here. Go back to Facebook until you can learn the basics of both grammar and respect.

EDIT::Thought that was the OP, I was wrong! Will go back and peruse some more, my post still stands though.

 

[On the down low]

LOL, I hear ya. Wind chimes can be very soothing.

I appreciate jam bands and listen on XM radio sometimes (it makes good road music because it has a flow to it, IMO) and still, to this day, one of my fave albums is Phish's "Pictures of Nectar" from like a million years ago. Mike Gordon does a pretty cool country ho-down kind of tune on there. He's got amazing skills.

I find myself liking Phish, but then others have caught my attention. Funny thing is 10 years ago I did not like Gov't Mule now the more I here them I'm digging it.

 

[BassBrass]

The world is a changing...

Fred Taylor owned Paul's Mall from 1965 to 1978, he started booking Miles Davis in 72 (a show I was at via my father talking to the doorman) Fred says he told Miles, "Miles, you have 2 sets" and impatient Miles says, "I don't DO sets", so Fred tells Miles, "Miles, the place is yours all night" and then they got to be close friends. Miles did play a LONG set without breaks And The Music Was Fascinating! And Exotic! Otherworldly, a fusion of Balinese gamelon, African drumming, downtown funk and Stockhausen. Pete Cosey, sitting obese guitarist, blew my mind. (Never heard better since)
Great musicians have been "jamming" for years and years (when was the word coined, 1914?) Jamming is how a lot of bands get material, it was never something to identify with.
I have never seen a band of the so called "jam band" idiom that at was interesting At All. I know what every stupid note is going to be before it's played. Seems like a lifestyle choice more than a musical art form. Someone should break the f-ing rules over there. raise the bar a little. I regret they even took the word. Like "gay" used to mean "happy" (but I don't mind that word take over) or the swastika was an ancient symbol that now means Nazi.

 

[On the down low]

Fred Taylor owned Paul's Mall from 1965 to 1978, he started booking Miles Davis in 72 (a show I was at via my father talking to the doorman) Fred says he told Miles, "Miles, you have 2 sets" and impatient Miles says, "I don't DO sets", so Fred tells Miles, "Miles, the place is yours all night" and then they got to be close friends. Miles did play a LONG set without breaks And The Music Was Fascinating! And Exotic! Otherworldly, a fusion of Balinese gamelon, African drumming, downtown funk and Stockhausen. Pete Cosey, sitting obese guitarist, blew my mind. (Never heard better since)
I have never seen a band of the so called "jam band" idiom that at was interesting At All. I know what every stupid note is going to be before it's played. Seems like a lifestyle choice more than a musical art form. Someone should break the f-ing rules over there. raise the bar a little.

Raising the bar I think it's been done. Go online and type in " The Red Masque" band watch their You Tube stuff, and ask yourself What The He!!..

 

[two fingers]

I love playing in a jam band settimg. It is fun for the musicians.

I would rather scrape a chalkboard with the bamboo under my own fingernails that watch or listen to a jam band. I think that is why most of the audience is high. It keeps them from becoming violent and storming the stage.

I agree with the premise though. They must be good players. I just can't listen long enough to find out for myself. About a minute in my ADD kicks in and I gotta go build a deck or light my hair on fire or something.

Seriously.....

Welcome to TalkBass!

 

[amusicalperson]

except maybe classical (as far as arrangement).

Which I find is so hilarious because many composers improv-ed freely. Franz Liszt was well known for improv-ing on other composer's music. Many of them did it daily. Funny how times have changed!

 

[Bluzeman90]

If you're into bass players that can jam, check out Entwhistle and Jack Bruce. Or listen to any live Hendrix or live Johnny Winter. Blues inspired a lot of jamming musicians. Bassists that can jam are out there, some very popular, but that's not ALL they do. Example: Stanley Clarke, dude can probably outjam 99.9% of bassists, but he's not really called a jam bassist.