What exactly are Fender posiflex graphite rods

[Killing Floor]

But, 'Ethically Sourced' does mean no lawyers were involved in their fabrication.

Nor does cruelty-free mean no critters were subject to testing. It can and does quite often mean the naturalness brand outsources to a vivarium.
How are these rods raised?

 

[eh_train]

How are these rods raised?

Whatever the answer, I anticipate a ‘bah-dum’…

 

[Z-Bass]

Does anyone have a photo of what they look like under the fingerboard?

I found this on Warmoth's website. Scroll down for a picture comparison of their stainless steel and graphite rods:

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It's not super up close but at least shows how they are positioned.

 

[CryingBass]

Nor does cruelty-free mean no critters were subject to testing. It can and does quite often mean the naturalness brand outsources to a vivarium.
How are these rods raised?

 

[DaveParker39]

Probably similar to Rolesor, which is Rolex's way of saying "this has a steel case and a gold bezel" but sounds cooler than "two tone"

Just a guess.

 

[Dincrest]

I don't know about the Fender Posiflex rods specifically, but it sounds like what Jeff Kiesel is showing in this video what Kiesel does with their instruments: Putting carbon fiber rods along the neck parallel to the truss rod to add stiffness. The video shows what it looks like under the fingerboard.

 

[Craig22221]

"do you hear that sustain?" "I don't hear anything". "well you would if it was turned on"

 

[urkel3000]

I'm not sure they're different at all. There was some info I saw once that led me to believe that the "Posifex" ones were hollow graphite wrapped around a wood core - if so, they'd be less effective than normal solid graphite rods.

If they are large enough in diameter, then they would be much stronger than a rod with the same weight.

 

[Aussie Player]

Whatever Fender uses, it seems to work well. These came out with the 1995 American Standard. I have one and it has never moved. Completely stable and I have relocated all over the US from a couple of climates as low as -18F a to as hi as 100+ and himidity you can swipe off your skin.

It was a good move on their part.

 

[ac100X]

Every Posiflex rod comes wrapped in "Fine Corinthian leather"....That's why they cost more.

 

[micguy]

If they are large enough in diameter, then they would be much stronger than a rod with the same weight.

A couple things:

1) Reinforcement rods are not round - there's no diameter. As you're primarily trying to increase stiffness in the vertical direction, they are made taller than they are wide. They are rectangular, which means you route a slot for them, and when glued in, they are locked in place.

2) Making a reinforcement rod bigger is not necessarily an improvement - you are limited by the dimensions of the neck - make them too tall or too wide, and the wood parts get too thin, putting weak spots in a neck - there is only so much you can do to stiffen a neck before you've gone too far.

3) OK, 3 things - reinforcement rods aren't really about strength - they are there to provide stiffness. Yes, there is a difference.

 

[Thom Fioriglio]

I found this on Warmoth's website. Scroll down for a picture comparison of their stainless steel and graphite rods:

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It's not super up close but at least shows how they are positioned.

This is perfect! Thank you! That image was exactly what I was looking for.

 

[Thom Fioriglio]

A couple things:

1) Reinforcement rods are not round - there's no diameter. As you're primarily trying to increase stiffness in the vertical direction, they are made taller than they are wide. They are rectangular, which means you route a slot for them, and when glued in, they are locked in place.

2) Making a reinforcement rod bigger is not necessarily an improvement - you are limited by the dimensions of the neck - make them too tall or too wide, and the wood parts get too thin, putting weak spots in a neck - there is only so much you can do to stiffen a neck before you've gone too far.

3) OK, 3 things - reinforcement rods aren't really about strength - they are there to provide stiffness. Yes, there is a difference.

Excellent information. Thank you!

 

[Thom Fioriglio]

I don't know about the Fender Posiflex rods specifically, but it sounds like what Jeff Kiesel is showing in this video what Kiesel does with their instruments: Putting carbon fiber rods along the neck parallel to the truss rod to add stiffness. The video shows what it looks like under the fingerboard.

Thanks! Exactly what I was looking for.

 

[Thom Fioriglio]

Thanks to all that replied. I did appreciate the funny ones. I emailed Fender and asked them directly and here is the response from them.

"The Posiflex rods are 2 graphite rods that run alongside the actual truss rod to reinforce against movement that can occur with fluctuations in the climate. It basically makes it a more stable neck."

So there you go.

 

[Kubicki Fan]

Every Posiflex rod comes wrapped in "Fine Corinthian leather"....That's why they cost more.

This conflicts with statement from a trusted insider:

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[60bass]

I`ll take a fishing rod over `em all.

I prefer the Ugly Stik with a Ugly Stick spinning reel or possibly a Shimano Stradic CI4.

 

[Deleted member 394181]

Don't fall for the marketing. Free Range doesn't mean Wild Caught.

Or grass fed.