What happened to the Musical Industry?

[Dr Steve Lawson]

Originally posted by christos
BOYCOTT Seattle, Grunge, Nirvana, Etc......

Why?

Steve

 

[Bruce Lindfield]

Originally posted by rickbass1

Brian - Since this thread has gotten so far away from the original question, re: rock bass in the 90's, I'll stray, too, because your comments intrigued me. I saw/heard an early `70's incarnation of Return To Forever with Clarke on Alembic (new 70's technology) and a guy named Raymond Gomez on guitar. The consensus of the people with whom I saw the concert, myself included, was that we had just been to a rock show, (Gomez was even playing through a Marshall stack, with a distortion effect for most of it). John Paul Jones, Geezer Butler, and Tom Hamilton may not have started anything but they were at least doing things differently. And Chris Squire took the Rick to places McCartney never thought about.
I saw Helborg on a jazz TV show, before cable became commercials interrupted by programs, with Ginger Baker, and you're right...his playing captivated me because it was as otherworldly as it was beautiful.

I'm not sure that the topic was ever necessarily that restricted; the first post starts off by saying : "I must say, that the 90's were a very mediocre decade for the bass community". I think my comments have been reacting to that and I tend to agree that that you can always look outside of "rock" and in the 70s and 80s there were always things going on that didn't fit into a neat "music-industry" pigeon-hole. I think I would always prefer that I could listen to what I wanted to rather than having this dictated by an industry that decides what is worth putting out and makes up categories to help people find their "product" on the shelves.

The difference from the late 90s on, is that people can buy what they want via the internet, rather than what happens to be in the shop under the category that they usually look in. So in discussion groups like this, we can reccommend CDs and people can probably find them on the internet and in fact it seems that most people are now trying before they buy and going on what sounds good to them.

It may get to the point where the tastes of record company execs no longer determine what is "rock" or "fusion" and so we can actually find out that the "bass community" was actually quite healthy in the various decades by following up personal reccommendations, rather than being limited by what companies are prepared to sell us or tell us were the classics then.

 

[Dr Steve Lawson]

Originally posted by Bruce Lindfield
The difference from the late 90s on, is that people can buy what they want via the internet, rather than what happens to be in the shop under the category that they usually look in. So in discussion groups like this, we can reccommend CDs and people can probably find them on the internet and in fact it seems that most people are now trying before they buy and going on what sounds good to them.

It may get to the point where the tastes of record company execs no longer determine what is "rock" or "fusion" and so we can actually find out that the "bass community" was actually quite healthy in the various decades by following up personal reccommendations, rather than being limited by what companies are prepared to sell us or tell us were the classics then. [/B]

Excellent point Bruce - the reason that music looks less inspring now is that record company policy has got more and more conservative and more focussed on short term gain, where as there are literally thousands of fascinating artists who are making their music available in other ways, bypassing the record deal altogether, and keeping control of their own music. It used to be the case that if you didn't have a record deal it was because you weren't good enough to get one. Now more amd more artists (myself included) are opting to not bother with the industry as it stands, to make music that we want to hear, and make it available to others, using the internet to reach any potential audience...

...seems to be working pretty well for me so far! )

Steve
http://www.steve-lawson.co.uk

 

[CROZ]

Originally posted by christos
BOYCOTT Seattle, Grunge, Nirvana, Etc......

What does that have to do with the price of tea in china?