What is a "true" P-Bass?

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by Gbass75, Nov 26, 2013.

  1. There are those who would say that only a Fender manufactured "Precision Bass" is an honest-to-God, legit, "P-Bass."

    Others suggest that any bass with the split-coil pick up can be defined as a "P-Bass."

    But then, just to muddy the waters, there are the various Fender-made "Precision" basses that have other sorts of pickups in them...

    So what are your thoughts? Are the original single and split-coil, Leo Fender designed basses the only TRUE Precision Basses?!?
  2. shawshank72


    Mar 22, 2009
    Isnt this kind of like saying that only hamburgers made at wendys are true hamburgers?
  3. mongo2


    Feb 17, 2008
    Da Shaw
    Those other than Fender/FMIC are simply copies.
  4. Yep, that's me, if it has a P-Bass split coil pickup in it, 1 tone and 1 volume, and no other details distinguishing it from what Fender has been offering for over 50 years, it's a "P-Bass."

  5. ...aren't they?

  6. shawshank72


    Mar 22, 2009
    lol They are good but there is better.

  7. Oh, Shawshank... PLEASE don't say In-and-Out! Those burgers are a hot mess (literally and figuratively)!!!
  8. landau roof

    landau roof Reupholstered User

    Jul 29, 2010
    Downstate CA
    You're out your 'cot damn mind!
  9. jwj1701


    Nov 17, 2011
    Lexington KY
    I sat 5 Guys is the only true hamburger (although I love Hardee's commercials). And it doesn't matter if it's single or split, Leo's fenders are the true P basses.
  10. Febs

    Febs Supporting Member

    May 7, 2007
    Philadelphia, PA
    P-Bass is a registered trademark of FMIC, so it's more like saying that only Old Fashioned Hamburgers® made at Wendy's are true Old Fashioned Hamburgers®.
  11. landau roof

    landau roof Reupholstered User

    Jul 29, 2010
    Downstate CA
    What if you put a Fender P pickup in a Tokai Hard Puncher?

    Is that kinda like a Wendy's patty in a Lotteria burger?


    ROOTSnFIFTHS Low-end Lover since '78!

    Oct 25, 2012
    NJ to Sin City
    I think if it has the name "Fender Precision" then that is a "P bass...".

    Now there are P bass styled basses as well as J bass style but they are copied,styled after Leo Fender's original concept. Now these 'copies', if you will may be worse or much better than true Fender Precision bass but they are not a true Fender Precision.

    When I hear 'P bass' I want to see Fender on the headstock. Done. Don't care what others say but a Precision is a Precision and it is made by Fender.

    And please don't want others getting their panties in a wad, but it is my opinion. As far as I am concerned I don't want to see a single coil in the bridge position on a stock Fender bass and see "Precision" on the headstock. Yes, maybe more versatile, but I like the original design.

    And yes I have heard and played Precision and Jazz styled basses (you all know the brands out there) that woop 'real' Fender P or J's butt, but they are not Precision or Jazz basses in my head. :bag:
  13. Generally speaking... Passive, split coil in "the spot", volume and tone control only.

    And more specifically the above made by Fender, Sunburst and sporting a Tort guard.
  14. smcd


    Jun 28, 2009
    Boston, MA
    If Wendys invented the hamburger, and copyrighted the name "Hamburger", then yes - under those circumstances, only Wendys hamburgers would be "true" hamburgers.

    Same with P-basses. Only Fender makes "true" P-basses. All others are copies. Others may make copies that are superior instruments, but only Fender makes "true" P-basses.
  15. hsech

    hsech I'm not old, I'm just seasoned. Gold Supporting Member

    Jun 27, 2012
    Central Iowa
  16. hsech

    hsech I'm not old, I'm just seasoned. Gold Supporting Member

    Jun 27, 2012
    Central Iowa
    A Tokai is still a copy.
  17. FretNoMore

    FretNoMore * Cooking with GAS *

    Jan 25, 2002
    The frozen north
    This. I believe both "Precision Bass" and "P Bass" are trademarks owned by Fender, so ...

  18. RoadRanger

    RoadRanger Supporting Member

    Feb 18, 2004
    NE CT
    Dunno what yous guys are talking about - this is an "original" Precision with its stock single coil pickup:
  19. Gaolee

    Gaolee It's all about the polyester

    I can't define pornography, but I sure know it when I see it. -Thurgood Marshall
  20. LazyGecko


    Nov 19, 2013