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What makes a bass good?

About electronics, I see people buy guitars all the time and just replace the pickups immediately, and other electrical components, which leaves me confused, because if electronics is something that makes a bass good, why would some people go out and replace them right away? I appreciate your help so far. :)
First, it depends on how much beyond the price of the bass you’re willing to spend and how much you’re able/willing to do in terms of soldering, adjusting the height of the new pickup(s), etc. The more people spend on a bass, the less they seem to want to mod it.
Second, unless you’re able/willing to change the pickup cavities, you’re stuck with the manufacturer’s configuration. A P bass split coil pickup is not going to fit in a Jazz bass neck pickup cavity. So while there are a plethora of Jazz bass pickup options, your Jazz bass will still be a Jazz bass and not suddenly morph into a Stingray.
 
Any bass can be brought to a point you can call "good." (Beware of money-grubbing rabbit holes)
The important thing is that it can maintain these adjustments and remains reliable.

If good matches your needs, then you have found your bass.

Keep in mind that in most cases the human being is the limiting factor, not the material. And that leather seats, string warmers and cruse control are nice options but not necessary to do the job.
 
Depends on the purpose. Usually there’s some minimum level of quality as far as materials, construction, craftsmanship, etc. but beyond that it’s what works for you as a player and what inspires you.

Lee Sklar has a great story about how he and John Entwistle were hanging out before a show and decided to try each others basses. Neither could play the other’s bass. You can bet that both players had very good basses in terms of quality/construction/craftsmanship but other factors made the other player’s bass “bad” for them and their bass “good” for them.
 
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The question is more: what do you like on your actual bass ? What do you don't like and would like to change ? Neck profile ? Sound ? Pickup type ? Something very good for me can be wrong for you. For example: i can't stand flat strings. Really. When i know a lot of TB'ers are playing only flat. So; what about your PJ ?
 
What would make a bass good? What would make a bass bad? I'm in need of a new bass and am wondering what to look out for, and what to avoid. Previously had a cheap PJ squier from one of those kits that came with an amp and everything.
Well, you're in luck, even the bargain basses today are better than they've ever been before.
Best advice is too hit the stores and try out a few dozen basses...you’ll find some that just don't feel right, but you’ll also find some that do.
 
I would argue that the answer to this question is mostly subjective.

I tell people that if you don't like the way it looks, you won't want to pick it up and play it. If you don't like the way it sounds, you won't want to play it. If you don't like the weight, you won't pick it up and play it. If the neck is too thick and hurts your hand to play it, you won't want to play it. If the neck is too thin and hurts your hand to play it, you won't want to pick it up and play it. A lot of it just comes down to pure personal preference.

I think the only universal thing is that the fretwork needs to be good and it needs to have a decently low, playable action and an ability to be intonated properly and stay in tune (good tuners).
 
Your technique it's as simple as that...save ur money and practise. Such a difference between the classic world and the pop/rock world.
In the classic world its all about practise, study and personal development and very little about the instruments which by default are inherently difficult to play irrespective of price....
Pop and rock seems to be the complete opposite. There's this idea that spending money will make you a better player. Pretty sure it won't.
 
What would make a bass good?

Good tone, easy to play, light weight and looking good. Technique will unlock the potential of any bass but you won't sound good unless the bass is capable of sounding good.

Spend a bit more and you'll get more for your money. IMO $500 basses sound better than $200 basses. $1k better than $500 and up until you reach the limit of your ability to tell the difference.
 
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About electronics, I see people buy guitars all the time and just replace the pickups immediately, and other electrical components, which leaves me confused, because if electronics is something that makes a bass good, why would some people go out and replace them right away? I appreciate your help so far. :)

Many times, we will find a bass that really feels good, but it doesn't sound too good.

I believe feel/construction is much more important than sound and that is specifically because changing the electronics is so commonplace.

The way I went about it was when I was ready for my next bass, I went on Sweetwater's website and browsed for basses in my price range that looked interesting. After I found a few I went on YouTube and watched reviews of those basses and that caused me loose interest in a couple, but some still seemed good. Then I went to the local music store to play the ones I was interested in to see which one I liked the best.

I still ended up buying from Sweetwater. I was able to try the bass I wanted in a different color in the store, but then ordered one that was the color I wanted from the website :bassist:

:smug::smug::smug::smug::smug::smug::smug:

When I'm on the phone with my Sweetwater sales engineer (Will Newbill. Great guy), I will frequently say: "Okay. I'm going to your peripheral showroom to go check this one out." Because we've had a business relationship for a decade, he knows I'm saying I'm heading to the local GC.
 
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Good advice has already been given, so I’ll just offer a perspective. Some people are constantly searching for their ideal bass, and generally never find it. Other people have dozens of basses and love them all. As long as you aren’t one of the former people, find a bass you like playing and that meet your needs. Success in a lot of things is just avoiding stupid decisions.
 
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Summarizing much of what other respondents already said, the following. I will add that no two or more of these sets are equivalent.

1. Objective attributes: price, quality of construction (fit, finish, intonation, etc.), stability (neck, tune, etc.), measurable sonics (absence of noise, presence of fundamental, presence of harmonics, sustain, absence of dead spots, etc.)

2. Subjective attributes: playability, sound, feel, relatability, desirability, perceived value for money, expected ease of resale, expected appreciation or depreciation, etc.

3. Player values: Which among the objective and subjective attributes does the player prioritize? (Which count as 'must have', 'should have', 'nice to have'?)

4. Player use: In the player's own hands, how and to what extent the instrument is demonstrably worthy (at all, in any given musical context, live, in the studio, etc.)
 
There's two different facets to this:
1- The quality of the components and build quality.
2- How it feels and sounds when you play it.

We can sit here all day listing out all the things that go into the 1st category of what makes a "good bass." What really matters is the 2nd category.

There are plenty of "flaws" from the 1st category that can be in a bass, but when you play it, you just love how it feels and sounds. That's kinda-sorta all that matters. If the bass sounds and feels right, the blemishes on the finishes, or less-than-perfect joints, or the slightly less good pickup or wood grain, or whatever, doesn't really matter too much.

The flip side, a bass can be "perfectly well made" on paper, and just not speak to you. You don't love the sound. You don't love the feel. You don't even like the color. So what good is it, really, for you?

That said, it's still good to know what goes into a quality instrument, and wanting to learn what makes a quality instrument is worthwhile. I don't want to dissuade from learning and understanding, because while it doesn't really matter, it kinda actually matters. :roflmao: (sorta... sometimes.)

First and foremost are the pickups. It's an electric bass. Something needs to convert the vibrations of the strings into electrical current so the amp/speaker can turn it into sound. Pickups are actually really old and simple technology, on a basic level. They're just a coil of wire around a magnet. Whether they're hand wound or machine produced (which are more similar than they sound), quality pickups use quality magnetic components and wire, and have tighter tolerances in wind-count accuracy and output etc. And still, you gotta like how they sound. If you're not into the sound of Hi-Fi Modern bass tone, doesn't matter how good the pickups are, if they're designed to sound like that, you won't like them.

Then there's the wood choices. Not just type of wood, but the characteristics of the wood used in making it. For example, maple makes a great neck wood. But not all pieces of maple are the same. A cheapo manufacturer might just get a huge stock of maple blocks and just crank out as many necks as possible, pay little regard to the density or direction of the grain. A quality bass maker will start by trying to only buy maple stock with better grain patterns, tighter grain, nice resonance, etc, and then will let that wood sit for some amount of time to ensure it ages/dries/cures/whatever you call it before making a neck from it.

There's the fit and finish. Did the manufacturer just crank out a bunch of bodies and necks and slap them together? Are there gaps where the neck seats into the body or are the body and neck perfectly fitted together? Does the neck need or have a shim from the factory? Or was the neck and body designed to sit together properly? Does the bridge allow for proper seating of strings and intonation, or is it a cheap flimsy piece of metal that won't maintain string height and intonation, and breaks strings because of attack angles over the saddles? Do the tuners turn freely and hold their tune, or do they stick or not hold tune? Did they take the time to make the fret edges really nice, or are you gonna walk away with slices on your fingers? Are the frets leveled or did they just slap in some fret wire and be done with it? Is the nut a quality material and cut properly? Are the pots quality components or did they find the absolute cheapest low-tolerance-spec pots? Do the solder joints look solid making good electrical connections, or are they horrendous blobs of solder made by someone or a machine whose only job it is to solder as many possible units per day regardless of how well its done? Is the bass properly shielded from the manufacturer?

A lot of it boils down to the maker choosing better components and materials, really precise design and wood cutting, and then taking the time afterwards to hone and refine them to create a more-playable bass straight out of the factory. And a lot of that, in turn, leads to longevity of an instrument. A great instrument with quality wood and quality components could last you forever and sound great the whole time. Cheaper components might give up on you at some point, corroding or rusting prematurely; connections might come loose more often and need to be re-soldered often; bad wood choices could be more prone to warping or break easier when knocked around too hard.
 
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About electronics, I see people buy guitars all the time and just replace the pickups immediately, and other electrical components, which leaves me confused, because if electronics is something that makes a bass good, why would some people go out and replace them right away?

My take is simple: If the instrument doesn't sound right out of the box, I am not going to waste money replacing parts chasing better sound. Replacing the strings is about my limit :thumbsup:

If the bass is used and has already been modified, as long as it still plays and sounds great I'm interested.

I'll add some historical background for any youngsters:

There was a period where modifying guitars was much less common and something of a black art. Other than tuning machines, third party replacement parts didn't exist until the 1970s. One of the first, if not the first, was Alembic who sold "Activator" pickup/preamp kits for Fender basses and the Strat-O-Blaster for Strats (doh).

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It really exploded at the end of that decade with DiMarzio, Bartolini, EMG and Duncan offering electronics, Mighty Mite, Schecter and Warmoth offering bodies and necks, Leo Quan (Badass), Schaller and Kahler offering bridges. At the time it was called "hot rodding". third party suppliers also enabled the entire boutique bass industry as builders could just focus on the woodworking while sourcing all the electronics and hardware elsewhere.

Prior to the 1970s, simple customizing consisted of either cannabilizing from other instruments or ordering replacement parts from another manufacturer entirely. For instance it was popular to add Gibson pickups to Fenders and vice versa. The P in my avatar even has a pickup from an 8 string steel guitar added at the bridge. Some Fender players got into swapping necks between Ps and Js and even Strat and Tele guitars.

The other alternative to electronics changes included finding someone who could do custom pickup rewinds and replace the stock wiring with some hand wired alternative, including custom preamps.

Today, everything is just drop it in and you're good to go. Making it so easy means more people will do it.
 
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