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What to replace a D410XLT with??

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BornboreD

Jan 8, 2007
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Ontario, Canada
#1
Alot of you may have read or at least seen my thread about the unfortunate demise of my beloved Eden D410XLT.

Now I must figure out what to replace it with, and honestly I'm very lost as to what to consider.

I need a "one and done" cabinet. Meaning one cab to cover all my needs. Something that can go from modern hiphop to Jaco. Metal to the blues. Country to funk.

I'll need it for at the most, venues that max at 500 people with PA support.

For the time being it will be powered by my good 'ol trusty SWR 350, but I plan on upgrading to something about twice as powerful within the year.

So other than an Ampeg SVT410HLF, what else should I be looking at??

Two more factors... It's gotta be 4ohm and cost approximately what 4 new drivers for the XLT would.

I'm not dead set on 10's... But for my needs I think another 4x10 is probably what I'm after.

Please help. Thanks in advance. :)
 
#3
I haven't necessarily ruled that out yet.

But as some mentioned in that thread, I too have noticed that this issue seems more common with Eden than other companies. There is a number of manufacturers that seem to have much better reputations these days.

Also as brought up in that thread, the cab is massive, and heavy. I know in recent years a slew of neo products have hit the market. A lighter, smaller option that doesn't give in the volume and power handling departments seems like something to be given consideration at the least.

Just weighing my options.... ;)
 
#5
Whatever you do, you owe it to yourself demo a mesa powerhouse cab before you decide what to get...may fave single cab of theirs is the powerhouse 1200....a fifteen surrounded by four tens. It'll make the hairs on your nuts@ck tingle
 
#8
Find an Aguilar DB212 or a pair of DB112's. I use these for everything you listed above. I dumped my SWR goliaths for the DB's and couldn't be happier. It may be a bit more than you want to spend, but IMO it's worth it.
 
#10
You would be surprised. I did a side by side with the DB212 and the Goliaths and the DB made the Goliaths sound sterile and lacking. I was skeptical of the 12's but to me they are the best of both worlds between the fullness of a 15 and the punchyness of a 10. I use the 212 set up against a 100w Marshall plexi and a hard hitting drummer with no issues at all.
 
#14
BornboreD:

I have had various Eden cabs before, including a 410xlt.

In my opinion (and purely my opinion) I think Eden cabs suck wangus. (No offense meant to TB'ers who love and rock Eden cabs). Again, I emphasize that this is only my opinion. I'm not attempting to purport what I say is "fact" about Eden cabs.

If you really want to get a cab that will rock your socks off for the remainder of your life, save up and get either a Bergantino cab (like a used HS410 or HD410 assuming ya wanna stick with a 4x10 cab), or look into Greenboy fEarful or fEarless cabs.

Just sayin.
 
#16
SactoBass said:
BornboreD:

I have had various Eden cabs before, including a 410xlt.

In my opinion (and purely my opinion) I think Eden cabs suck wangus. (No offense meant to TB'ers who love and rock Eden cabs). Again, I emphasize that this is only my opinion. I'm not attempting to purport what I say is "fact" about Eden cabs.

If you really want to get a cab that will rock your socks off for the remainder of your life, save up and get either a Bergantino cab (like a used HS410 or HD410 assuming ya wanna stick with a 4x10 cab), or look into Greenboy fEarful or fEarless cabs.

Just sayin.
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Bergs are great but Eden certainly doesn't suck. Great live band tone. That's where they shine , imo. In a live band setting. Doubling up will make all the difference.
 
#17
This may be too expensive, but this is what I did.

I've been playing an Eden Metro combo (210) with a XLT-410 for a combined 610 configuration for the last four years. It was plenty loud, clear and cut through the mix nicely. I'd been very happy with its performance and sound. But I'm also 48 years-old now. I'm tired of carrying almost 200 pounds of rig between the two cabinets.

I purchased a Bergantino CN-212 and a Genz Benz Shuttle Max9.2 head. Combined, they are just over 50 lbs! In my experience, the CN-212 is plenty loud. I play with a 5 - 6 piece pop/rock/disco band. I DI into the PA, but we play mostly out-door gigs. So I need a rig that is louder than most people would in that situation. I haven't completely cranked the cabinet to its full capacity, but I've been told by a number of people that the CN-212 will get you very close to the volume of a XLT-410. Tonally, I prefer the CN-212 more than the XLT-410. It's fuller down low, but still very articulate. I'm STILL on my honeymoon with this cab after using it on about a half dozen gigs. I just love the thing. At the end of the night, I still love it when I can get it into the car without wishing I had help.

I want to see how well it works in a big festival type stage. If it performs as I hope, I will most likely sell my XLT-410. Good luck.
 
#20
BornboreD said:
Alot of you may have read or at least seen my thread about the unfortunate demise of my beloved Eden D410XLT.

Now I must figure out what to replace it with, and honestly I'm very lost as to what to consider.

I need a "one and done" cabinet. Meaning one cab to cover all my needs. Something that can go from modern hiphop to Jaco. Metal to the blues. Country to funk.

I'll need it for at the most, venues that max at 500 people with PA support.

For the time being it will be powered by my good 'ol trusty SWR 350, but I plan on upgrading to something about twice as powerful within the year.

So other than an Ampeg SVT410HLF, what else should I be looking at??

Two more factors... It's gotta be 4ohm and cost approximately what 4 new drivers for the XLT would.

I'm not dead set on 10's... But for my needs I think another 4x10 is probably what I'm after.

Please help. Thanks in advance. :)
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As an option, you might want to consider 2 - 2x10 cabs and stack them vertically. I stacked up my cabs like this and it really helped my tone project well both side to side and out into the audience. It might seem like it'd tip over - no. I was skeptical about this vertical stack idea because I used to stack my pair of 2x10 cabs up like the usual 4x10. The vertical stack sounds better. Get the brand of your choice.
 

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