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What's On Your Workbench?

Late to the Ben Crowe discussion here, but I also watched the entire build and had more than a few what the heck? moments. Actually the pickup alignment doesn't bother me nearly as much as the bridge design. But that being said, I'm consciously trying to take a page from his book in terms of just trying stuff and not being so precious about everything. Where I would spend a lot of time setting up to drill a single perfect hole, he just picks up a hand drill and whacks it out by eyeball. I do appreciate that he has the resources to screw up without losing much, but I definitely want to be more relaxed about how I approach things in general, and leave the obsessive worrying for tasks that are actually mission critical. When he says "I'm really happy with this", that's the goal right there. Technically, this is supposed to be fun, right?
Yeah, totally agree. He's so quick to just go "Let's just start carving right here, why not?" and I literally freeze every time I have to drill a single hole. Some day I suppose it'll get better, but it ain't this first build, I know that!
 
Yeah, totally agree. He's so quick to just go "Let's just start carving right here, why not?" and I literally freeze every time I have to drill a single hole. Some day I suppose it'll get better, but it ain't this first build, I know that!

If you have a big operation, and all day, and a [more/less] unlimited wood pile like he does then you can afford to make mistakes.

I don't have any of those things so need to be pretty sure about what I am doing, even when doing it for the first time. It's not ideal but I have to live with it -- at least until I retire.
 
I also wonder how much of that "oh I'm just gonna give this a try" attitude is staged in that he's practiced and refined things, but then acts like he's trying them fresh in the video that actually gets published. I don't mean this as critical, or to insinuate that I think he's being deceptive, but it just seems like part of his personality to be really aloof about it.
 
I would agree dwizum - While I'm not hugely familiar with this chap & his videos, from the little I do know about the industry, more often than not, a lot of careful planning goes into making something look easy/successful/'first time lucky' on camera. I also agree that it rarely strays into outright deception, it's just Movie Magic, and an ongoing effort to create entertaining content.

I for one would prefer to see the process 'warts and all', but that doesn't make for snappy videos, or fitting a whole build into a single upload.
 
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You guys are being nice. I have to just say it,.....if that's what's going on, it's deceptive.
Everything on TV is fake. And with YouTube basically now the new "TV", a lot of it is staged and fake. At the very least, it's a little deceptive.
But, when it comes to anything film based, I like the geeky, informational, technical stuff. I don't care much for theater. The most theatrical thing I actually enjoy watching is that show "how the universe works".
When it comes to stuff like that guitar vid, I'm watching the process and barely hear the commentary, theater and product plugs.
Then again, I've been told more than once that my brain doesn't function in a "normal" way. Honestly, I don't think it was a compliment. :cautious:
 
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I really don't watch a lot of youtube content for things like guitar building. There's a ton of good info on youtube, for sure, and some things are really easiest to learn by watching them done, but I just don't enjoy sitting through a 10 minute video in order to learn what I could have learned by reading for 10 seconds. I prefer videos with subtitles or a paragraph in the description that explains what's going on, so I can just get the info I need and move on with life, or scan through the video quickly to find the 10 seconds that actually matters. I guess I'm just not patient enough to watch a screen for 10 minutes in order to hear the guy say the three sentences I really needed to hear.

It's interesting to hear the chatter on facebook guitar building groups when someone asks "where do I get started?" - the majority of responses are "here's a youtube channel, watch all their videos." I would tear my eyes out with a rusty spoon if I had to learn this hobby from youtube. I'm usually one of the few responses in the "here's a book to read" camp along with a few other older guys.

Here's the paradox though: I do occasionally watch "instructional" videos for technical hobbies that I don't actually do, more or less for entertainment. Stuff like wood turning. I could watch wood turning videos all day long.
 
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Here's the paradox though: I do occasionally watch "instructional" videos for technical hobbies that I don't actually do, more or less for entertainment.
I do the same. There's a lot of interesting stuff, for sure.
As far as books though, I've always struggled with getting info from reading. It's always way easier for me to watch it being done. But, like you said, if you can't watch someone do it in person and try watching vids, you have sit through 10-15 min to get the 30 sec of info you need. And then, if you have ADHD, 2 hrs later you're watching vids on how to build diy chainsaw mills when you started out just looking for 30 sec of info on how to remove paint from wood pores.
 
I watch way too much Youtube these days. Mrs. Terrible has threatened to cancel our tv subscription because "You don't watch it anyways!" Umm.....pump the brakes girl....yes I do. NASCAR and Formula 1 isn't on YouTube! :eek:

Yeah, I'm sure Ben fakes a lot of his "let's just see what happens, shall we?" attitude. I've been told by some of my YouTuber friends "You could just edit out the part where you mess up, you know?" Yeah, I could. But tbh, I kinda like leaving it in there when things go wrong. It just seems more entertaining and "real".
 
It's interesting to hear the chatter on facebook guitar building groups when someone asks "where do I get started?" - the majority of responses are "here's a youtube channel, watch all their videos."

In another life/arena, I've been rehairing violin bows professionally since 1979 and I can verify that the majority of YouToob videos on the subject range from inadvisable to actually dangerous. Despite my previous comment, which was about trying to cultivate a more relaxed approach where appropriate, some disciplines definitely don't lend themselves to a "try it and see" attitude. Especially when you are working on something that cost more than your car and that someone depends on to make a living.
 
I watch way too much Youtube these days. Mrs. Terrible has threatened to cancel our tv subscription because "You don't watch it anyways!" Umm.....pump the brakes girl....yes I do. NASCAR and Formula 1 isn't on YouTube! :eek:

Yeah, I'm sure Ben fakes a lot of his "let's just see what happens, shall we?" attitude. I've been told by some of my YouTuber friends "You could just edit out the part where you mess up, you know?" Yeah, I could. But tbh, I kinda like leaving it in there when things go wrong. It just seems more entertaining and "real".

An F1 subscription is $80 a year for all the races, practices and qualis live and on demand with heaps of extras- the pitlane channel has 3 screens, there's always something happening in the midfield and better commentary than the main channel IMO. Plus complete F2 and F3 coverage, more competitive than F1 and a look at the guys coming up. I watched the Monaco F2 sprint race this AM, Guanyu Zhou kicked ass, he'll be in F1 next year. Nascar doesn't interest me so no problem there.

I don't have any TV hookup, almost every movie and TV show is available on the net for free if you know where to look- with no commercials.
 
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An F1 subscription is $80 a year for all the races, practices and qualis live and on demand with heaps of extras- the pitlane channel has 3 screens, there's always something happening in the midfield and better commentary than the main channel IMO. Plus complete F2 and F3 coverage, more competitive than F1 and a look at the guys coming up. I watched the Monaco F2 sprint race this AM, Guanyu Zhou kicked ass, he'll be in F1 next year. Nascar doesn't interest me so no problem there.

I don't have any TV hookup, almost every movie and TV show is available on the net for free if you know where to look- with no commercials.
Yeah, and that's part of why my wife has been pushing it. My concern is the cost of a dozen different streaming services. $80 for F1 coverage, she'd HAVE TO HAVE her NHRA coverage so add another $120 for that, I mostly watch Discovery network channels so add another $80 for that, NASCAR owns FansChoice.tv so add another $50 for that (at least then I'd also get some coverage of some of the races I run). By the time you start adding it all up, is it worth it? I dunno, I failed maths back when I used to skip school. :roflmao:
 
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Yep, Ben seems to know his stuff, but I cannot for the life of me, sit through even 30 seconds of his vids... they are crying out for serious hacknslash editing. The long pauses, sighs, irrelevant commentary, etc just kills me...I just can't sit through it despite knowing that what he's doing is of interest to me. My buddy who edits videos re-edited one of his 10 minute videos just taking out all of the pauses, rests, camera pans, etc and got it down to under 3 mins! He also said it was painful to process. I know I'm a richard cranium about this but oh well. :D
 
Yep, Ben seems to know his stuff, but I cannot for the life of me, sit through even 30 seconds of his vids... they are crying out for serious hacknslash editing. The long pauses, sighs, irrelevant commentary, etc just kills me...I just can't sit through it despite knowing that what he's doing is of interest to me. My buddy who edits videos re-edited one of his 10 minute videos just taking out all of the pauses, rests, camera pans, etc and got it down to under 3 mins! He also said it was painful to process. I know I'm a richard cranium about this but oh well. :D
You're not wrong! What's funny is, even Ben has admitted he pauses way too much for dramatic effect, and tends to trail off on tangents. He even has a stuffed squirrel on the shelves behind him because he goes off on so many tangents. :roflmao: :laugh: :roflmao:

I'll be honest, there's tons of times I just watch it with the volume down low because I just want to watch his hands and tools. I tend to watch how the tools are being presented more than anything. :cool:
 
I hear you all about the longer / not edited down videos. I usually scrub ahead to the part that want to see. They guys over at Texas Toast guitars are pretty good about trying to stay on point and move along.

By the way, I’m giving this stuff a try for shielding paint:

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I hear you all about the longer / not edited down videos. I usually scrub ahead to the part that want to see. They guys over at Texas Toast guitars are pretty good about trying to stay on point and move along.

By the way, I’m giving this stuff a try for shielding paint:

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The last truck I worked on, a 1947 Studebaker, I used this when working on the engine.
I wondered about using it for shielding.
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I hear you all about the longer / not edited down videos. I usually scrub ahead to the part that want to see. They guys over at Texas Toast guitars are pretty good about trying to stay on point and move along.

By the way, I’m giving this stuff a try for shielding paint:

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Let us know how that works. I got the water based and it’s not conductive when dry. Also, the can doesn’t have the warning about the paint being heat and electrically conductive. I’d get that one but now I only see gallons on Amazon.
 
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Let us know how that works. I got the water based and it’s not conductive when dry. Also, the can doesn’t have the warning about the paint being heat and electrically conductive. I’d get that one but now I only see gallons on Amazon.

Will do. I went to Tractor Supply Co. They had these quarts, gallons an a spray can. I’m hoping it work out. I tried a mixture of graphite powder and art paint the last go round and it was meh…