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I feel like the point was completely lost…. Anyway I will take my 10lb passive 70's Precision and get my naturally fat tone and you balsa wood bass playin' bloats can tweak your 30 band onboard eq's and sonic maximizers and do you do what you guys do.
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What's Wrong With Schecter Basses?
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"and you balsa wood bass playin' bloats can tweak your 30 band onboard eq's and sonic maximizers and do you do what you guys do."
That's actually really funny cause I got that balsa wood bass too.. ha
That's actually really funny cause I got that balsa wood bass too.. ha
You're not even that old. Louis CK said it best:louis ck turning 40 - YouTube
Boonshot and Aguilar Amplification have been around since the late 80's - same place your attitude is stuck. I owned that bass when I was 23. I'm 30 now - yeah, "back in the day".
Lets just something out there that can be separate from this debate. There has been no combination in history (nor will there ever be) that has caused more "gushing" then a P Bass thru an SVT. I'm convinced that combo caused the baby spike of the 1970's, I don't care what anyone else says.
Now back to the topic, I own many of those "balsa" basses. They have a HiFi sound that can sometimes be heard in a mix. However, the way that it clicked with me was in the studio. It was my first gig working with a producer in a studio session. I brought my #1 with me, which was a Modulus Q5 with EMG's. It was feather weight. To me that bass was the be all end all of basses. Playability and tone. I ran a Avalon signal and a mic signal thru a SWR rig. The tone was untouchable by itself. It was time for me to lay down my track, and I thought the combo sounded amazing in the mix. Then they all said "I don't think that setup is going to work for this"; Engineer agreed, the producer went and Pulled a beat to hell P Bass off the wall and handed it to me. I had no idea at the time, but I later found out that it was pre CBS. At the time it was a stupid p bass. As I was tuning up, the engineer brought in a Fliptop and got it all mic'd up in the other room. I wanted nothing to do with the combo. They had me play alitle bit while they got levels, and it sounded terrible. Mud Mud Mud. Then we played the track, and started tracking. For some reason it wasn't mud in the mix, it was what a foundation sounded like. The bastard producer looked and me and said "Thats what making records sound like" and it was the best tone I've ever had up till that point.
For the music that I play and record you cannot find something that sits in a mix like a boat anchor Precision. The balsa bass is great for the 90's fusion gigs, or music that calls for "clacky clack clack".
I damn near fell alsleep writing this garbage...
Schecter used to have a really neat bass - the 004. I totally dug that one, it was like a Rickenbacker style body with active/passive options for sound.
There's nothing wrong with the company at all, AFAIK. Don't let anyone criticize what you play. Play it and enjoy what you love.
There's nothing wrong with the company at all, AFAIK. Don't let anyone criticize what you play. Play it and enjoy what you love.
My Studio 5 is great. The action is crazy low and the B is tight and sounds great. I played a MM 5 today and would not trade my Schecter for it.
The Blackjack I had, on the other hand, was terrible. As mentioned in other posts, the tone was weak and could not be improved with string change or knob tweaking. The body shape was not comfortable either.
If you like it, play it. Headstock decals mean nothing.
The Blackjack I had, on the other hand, was terrible. As mentioned in other posts, the tone was weak and could not be improved with string change or knob tweaking. The body shape was not comfortable either.
If you like it, play it. Headstock decals mean nothing.
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That much is obvious. I can't stand the P-bass sound, so you are welcome to break your back for it.
Finally, something we agree on.
The last classic rock band I was in the Guitard had a home studio with all kinds of cool stuff. Anyway we decided to make a demo, the first night I showed up with my HH Stingray 5 and a Carvin SB 5001... sounded ok. After 3 nights I had tried those instruments, another Stingray 5 single H, a Carvin PB5 J/B active and a US Jazz Delux... all were just ok... I finally picked up my E series MIJ P and whala... sheer bliss. The recording was absolutely killer.
I guess my post didn't come across in the spirit with which it was intended. Oh well. I guess my 80's hat was a give away for my 80's attitude.
Still, I think your timeline is off. If you "dropped Aggies in it," I assumed you meant pickups. I know Aguilar amps have been around for a good while, but I think the company started in 1995, and not the 80's. Their onboard preamps have been around for quite a while, but their pickups - I'm fairly sure - weren't released until 2010. They weren't around 7 years ago. "Back in the day" really wasn't that long ago, I guess.
Well, I guess its just where we are in our music careers. Myself, I can't afford to be set in my ways with "what sounds good to me" Those mindsets work fine in local scenes but will not serve you in good standing when your working in bigger ponds. You get a session gig, your tell the producer what you know to sound good, you'll find 100 bass players ready to sit in that chair when you get the preverbal hook off the job.
OMG! Don't watch that, he is mixing cabs! Blasphemy!
Don't really have anything to add to the Schecter debate. Personally, I think Schecter's are decent, good quality instruments, although, in this area, there doesn't seem to be too many guys gigging with them.
As far as the video, that's pretty awesome! Great playing and great tone; HOWEVER, it must be noted that even though he's using totally mismatched, mixed cabs, he's also using an Ampeg SVT 4 Pro, which can negate the effects of mixed cabs due to its ability to run Bi-amped. I'd be willing to bet that he's bi-amping his rig...
Don't really have anything to add to the Schecter debate. Personally, I think Schecter's are decent, good quality instruments, although, in this area, there doesn't seem to be too many guys gigging with them.
As far as the video, that's pretty awesome! Great playing and great tone; HOWEVER, it must be noted that even though he's using totally mismatched, mixed cabs, he's also using an Ampeg SVT 4 Pro, which can negate the effects of mixed cabs due to its ability to run Bi-amped. I'd be willing to bet that he's bi-amping his rig...
The mic is on the 10, so you hearing the DI and the SWR. So that 15 is so he hear can hear some bottom end otta his bass. Those wedges won't be able to do that. Also, he sounds like he's soloing the bridge position most the time. Never, seen that model in Schecter.
He's not going to hear any more bottom end from the 15 than he's gonna get from the 10's, unless the rig is bi-amped. So, he's either running bi-amped or the 15 is just there to hold up the 10's...
I know, right! Lol! I don't know if I'd be shocked or not to find out that happens more than we think...
Back to Schecter basses...
You probably don't know this, but most Pre-CBS P basses were light weight, well under 9 pounds, often at or below 8 pounds.
Shocker!....a P bass through a flip top sounds great. Who knew?
And just wait 'til all the lightweight Sadowsky players find out their "balsa" basses are useless in the studio, and get lost in a live mix. Quick!....someone call Will Lee! He needs to know about this! Now!
You probably don't know this, but most Pre-CBS P basses were light weight, well under 9 pounds, often at or below 8 pounds.
Shocker!....a P bass through a flip top sounds great. Who knew?
And just wait 'til all the lightweight Sadowsky players find out their "balsa" basses are useless in the studio, and get lost in a live mix. Quick!....someone call Will Lee! He needs to know about this! Now!
Well, I have a 9ish pound MV5 I use in the studio when I need a 5er. Those are not balsa basses. Point nulled.
I can't comment on the weight on the pre cbs. Was sitting down when using. I brought that story up to prove another point.
Yyyyyep.... the 004.
My chance to brag: This one is the only dark walnut 004 ever made... and I LOVE it. Given the provenance and stories behind it, everyone says I should put it in an airtight case and protect it from UV light like the Mona Lisa... but I play it often. Great tones, ultraslim fast neck, and mmmmmojo.
And this guy (Dug Pinnick), the bass badass himself, loves his Schecters too:
Don't ya just hate it when ya inadvertently "null" one of your own points while trying to prove another point?
