Had a MAG 410 deep that had a shelfed bottom port and mesh like grill, sold that, regreted it, so I just bought another. Just got it and now this one is rear ported and the grill is stamped steel, and the "holes" are in the shape of the ashdown logo. Greatly improved cosmeticaly in my opinion. but my problem is i want a to get a MAG115 to go under it, but i want them to match. The store i got my new 410 from said it was old stock, but i'm not sure of what his definition of old stock is, could be 90 days or could be 2 years.. So my question is, which design came first? and should i be looking for a used or new old stock 115 or is the "logo" grill the newest design in which case i should be able to get it "off the shelf" at a ashdown dealer?