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When mere words fail...Fender Custom Shop

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SJLee said:
What are you talking about potatoes and carrots for? You lost me there. If you don't think a 300+ year old piece of pine will sound more resonant than a green tree, don't buy it. Simple as that. :)

Whether the FCS has redesigned anything or not is of no concern to me one way or another. If I don't like their products or prices, I simply don't buy them. That being said, they're a manufacturer and they are free to make what they like as long as there is a market for it. Whether anyone agrees with that or not it is irrelevant.

I have not looked at Music Man basses as they are not my cup of tea. But have you looked at the price of a Fender American Professional II Precision bass lately? It's now $3199.00 US.
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Dear @SJLee thank you for your notes, I’ll make treasure of them.

1. Seasoned wood is ok; 300+ years old wood (wanna see the certificate; no certificate = debatable origin and age) is difficult to find unrotten but, should this be the case, I firmly believe that it won’t sound that different if compared to a good seasoned wood (resonant? When I play with headphones on only my head is resonating).
2. Fender CS hasn’t added anything remarkable to the original Fender designs; instruments are quite good and I like certain P-basses made by it, but they are now overpriced; better buying them second hand IMO, if a suitable one can be found.
3. Fender Am. Pro. II P-Bass sold at 3199 $ ? Where? In Italy they range from 1950 to 2050 € new .. bah …

In any case buy what you like and what your wallet can afford.
Personally my AO ‘60s P has still got a lot of miles to cover …
 
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#202
Gianni "Orlandez" Orlati said:
Dear @SJLee thank you for your notes, I’ll make treasure of them.

You do that. :thumbsup:

1. Seasoned wood is ok; 300+ years old wood (wanna see the certificate; no certificate = debatable origin and age) is difficult to find unrotten but, should this be the case, I firmly believe that it won’t sound that different if compared to a good seasoned wood (resonant? When I play with headphones on only my head is resonating).

Whatever. Speculation is speculation.

2. Fender CS hasn’t added anything remarkable to the original Fender designs; instruments are quite good and I like certain P-basses made by it, but they are now overpriced; better buying them second hand IMO, if a suitable one can be found.

So, who cares? I'm not loosing any sleep over it. Again, buy what you like and don't buy what you don't think has the value. I agree with you, BTW, that the new FCS prices are too high. It's just so boring to keep talking about it. They're obviously not listening or dropping prices any time soon. My point is, why complain about a product you're not interested in and will not be purchasing?

3. Fender Am. Pro. II P-Bass sold at 3199 $ ? Where? In Italy they range from 1950 to 2050 € new .. bah …

I guess you haven't checked out Fender's website. These are the new prices.

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In any case buy what you like and what your wallet can afford.
Personally my AO ‘60s P has still got a lot of miles to cover …

Now you're speaking my language.
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Gianni "Orlandez" Orlati said:
3. Fender Am. Pro. II P-Bass sold at 3199 $ ? Where? In Italy they range from 1950 to 2050 € new .. bah …
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Well, here in New Zealand they are $4099.
Not in a million years would I pay that for a basic Pbass.

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BAG said:
Well, here in New Zealand they are $4099.
Not in a million years would I pay that for a basic Pbass.

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Those are New Zealand dollars I presume .. there’s a 0.6 ratio from NZD to USD so 4099 NZD times 0.6 yields 2459,4 USD which is bit on the high side and you’ll have to pay that money if you want to buy a new MIA Fender unfortunately.
There’s now a 1,05 ratio between EUR and USD do 2459,4/1,05 yields 2342 USD, which means that import taxes and transport costs are high from USA towards New Zealand, which I presume may be the case since New Zealand is far away from almost all defied countries but Australia.
I wonder how much you should pay for a CS bass there …
 
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I’m going to step out and say… why worry about resale value ? Do most who pay to have a bass made to your spec’s sell them ? I don’t see that. If you wanted to sell, your buying audience is much smaller, as how many would like what you “designed?”
Not knowing the numbers, % of custom made basses that were not a customers order ? If you have this kind of expendable income, I’d think most keep their one off custom bass and the cost , well……. But it’s early morning here, what do I know anyway ??
 
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I’m thinking about the Yin-Yang on the wall, not custom shop/ made to order, but $5000 + USD for a “in stock” bass ?? I type this as the next topic on my TB New Posts are about Fedora ‘s Club. I don’t know the offerings but only have seen the “expensive “ models posted.
So I looked at the discussion(s) and didn’t see anyone talk about the cost of the basses. I did see some who have a few in their collection. I’m sure they are fine instruments and I’d never “talk down” about them.
I’ll again, stop and go make another cup of coffee.
 
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Gianni "Orlandez" Orlati said:
Those are New Zealand dollars I presume .. there’s a 0.6 ratio from NZD to USD so 4099 NZD times 0.6 yields 2459,4 USD which is bit on the high side and you’ll have to pay that money if you want to buy a new MIA Fender unfortunately.
There’s now a 1,05 ratio between EUR and USD do 2459,4/1,05 yields 2342 USD, which means that import taxes and transport costs are high from USA towards New Zealand, which I presume may be the case since New Zealand is far away from almost all defied countries but Australia.
I wonder how much you should pay for a CS bass there …
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Yep, there are some advantages to living so far from anywhere else, but quite a few disadvantages particularly when it comes to shipping costs.

I can only see one CS bass for sale here and it's over $9,000.
There are a few CS guitars for sale around the same price and one Eric Clapton Blackie tribute for $50,000.

Other than my first electric bass and my 8-string I have only ever bought second hand. I have no need of any more basses..... but I'm always looking at auction sites in case something interesting comes up. Another issue for me is that I'm in the larger, but less populated, South Island and therefore can't try out any of the basses in the North Island before buying and shipping is still an added cost and risk.
 
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BAG said:
Yep, there are some advantages to living so far from anywhere else, but quite a few disadvantages particularly when it comes to shipping costs.

I can only see one CS bass for sale here and it's over $9,000.
There are a few CS guitars for sale around the same price and one Eric Clapton Blackie tribute for $50,000.

Other than my first electric bass and my 8-string I have only ever bought second hand. I have no need of any more basses..... but I'm always looking at auction sites in case something interesting comes up. Another issue for me is that I'm in the larger, but less populated, South Island and therefore can't try out any of the basses in the North Island before buying and shipping is still an added cost and risk.
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I’ve been in NZ for a week for an Australian contractor which had to build a sewer tunnel in Auckland.
I could understand that for certain materials and goods the country mainly depended on supplies received from Australia and other east Asia countries.
But it was very, very beautiful and clean .. wages weren’t that good however, so I went back to Italy ;)
 

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