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When the music's over, buy a new amp

#21
Please don't be afraid of used gear. So many folks are trying to find their sound that the used market is filled with gear that has only seen bedroom duty. Pro gear used is a better deal then budget gear new. Pro gear keeps it's resale value, often you can sell close to what you bought it for. Your Behringer will be worth nothing because the next kid wants new Behringer. If it costs $200 new what's it worth used. Save up.
Remember quality is where you find it.
 
#22
chadds said:
Please don't be afraid of used gear. So many folks are trying to find their sound that the used market is filled with gear that has only seen bedroom duty. Pro gear used is a better deal then budget gear new. Pro gear keeps it's resale value, often you can sell close to what you bought it for. Your Behringer will be worth nothing because the next kid wants new Behringer. If it costs $200 new what's it worth used. Save up.
Remember quality is where you find it.
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What he said!:smug:
 
#23
sixway said:
Man, the first link for Craigslist is the bomb for $675!...To buy this new would be $531 Price, you pay $425 for this one in new condition.
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That does sound like a decent rig, but I would buy a new 410 from Avatar with carpet covering for $439 plus $48 shipping before I would pay this guy $425 for his used purple one. I also would suggest extreme caution buying a head that has bent rack ears. There aren't many ways to bend rack ears, and it has probably been dropped.
 
#24
You might want to ping Ken Jung (KJung) and Mike Fredericks (MikeBass), both of whom are busy working bass players in Detroit. They are both gear wonks, especially Ken, and tend to go through gear pretty quickly. I bet they would know about some killer quality used stuff. Ken seems to deal with Low Down Sound mostly.
 
#25
psycom said:
for 410 bucks I picked up a Behringer Ultrabass 4500 head and a 210 cab and it friggin rocks! Cabinet is heavy though coming at 70 pounds. all i had to do to get it to sound right was engage the shape control and everything else is at noon. i pulled my GK Backline sound right out of it! and noon on the master... better be ready for that one.

The spkr cab I opened up and put some DENSE foam in and took off the funky gold plastic rings and name plates. My only grip is moving that cabinet. But the speakers are massive! 300 watt 4 ohm each. And the tweeter, don't use it. it just makes it hiss as it's in the 2-20khz range anyway. what it needs is an attenuator instaed of a on/off switch.

Everybody knocks Behringer. And I wasn't a fan either really but why? Why indeed! do stay away from their aluminum spkrs. But the rest of it, 230 bucks for a head is a deal! I really thought I'd have to use my GK or Sansamp as a pre-amp. That was the plan but don't need it. All I need is someone to carry the 210. thankfully it has wheels built in.
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Nope its not their ideas such as the wacky aluminum cones its the fact that every behringer product I've ever owned has been only ok. It worked but it never worked well...or for a very long time. Sorry, maybe their bass system rule but based on other stuff that I've purchased (including a bass amp combo) I just don't feel right purchasing behringer for anything as important as a bass amp. Little mixer for at home, or playing everything through your head phones no problem but live shows with behringer is a big no no in my book.

I have equipment from the 80's - early 2000's that still works great and are LEAGUES above behringer...for 600 bucks I would, try to get something else, either used or just save my money and really get something good.
 

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