I know Mike Kroeger's tech and Doug Pinnick's tech lurk around these parts. I'm sure both could enlighten on the big stage power situation. Anybody remember their TB handles?
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Where do I plug this sucker in?
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Mike's tech's name is David “Shuu” Guidish, and his handle is...."SHUU"
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There you go!!
Like Animal (Donald Sutherland) said in the movie "Kelly's Hero's"...."Baby...like, I just ride in these things..I don't know how they work"
I think you misunderstand. I always encourage stuff like this. There is no such thing as too much power and I believe that "you can never go too far" - Ferris Bueller.
In fact, I'd pay good money to be at ground zero when it happens.
Also . . .
It's possible I would get arrested for performing lewd acts in public if I were to suddenly find myself standing in the presence of this rig.
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Thanks for the reply BOB, I do think I get it and it does even seem to make sense to my small brain. 
Apart from this kickass rig being fun, you want to control the sound that reaches the audience, using PA for that last bit when needed. Wow. I'm still strugling with vibrating stages and that type of acoustic inconvinience. It takes some imagination for me to picture arena-like circumstances, with its own bunch of laws ragarding the travel of sound, but I think I dig the way you approach this.
Like said before me, I'll hang around here and try to learn something. Along for the ride. Yeehaa!!
Apart from this kickass rig being fun, you want to control the sound that reaches the audience, using PA for that last bit when needed. Wow. I'm still strugling with vibrating stages and that type of acoustic inconvinience. It takes some imagination for me to picture arena-like circumstances, with its own bunch of laws ragarding the travel of sound, but I think I dig the way you approach this.Like said before me, I'll hang around here and try to learn something. Along for the ride. Yeehaa!!
Bob:
Have you looked at these?
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In the end - no matter what fancy cables and connectors you buy, you'll also need a simple pig tail and a set of big Allen keys available for use at the "bitness" end of the rig as I reckon given your power requirements you'll have occasion to be faced with hard wiring into a service disconnect / main distribution panel using the service side lugs more often than you will be "plugging" into anything. Having the proper NEMA plugs available for adding to your pigtail would be smart but I imagine there will be times that won't help.
FWIW on the couple of stage builds I have been involved in [medium sized venues - 500 to 1,000 peeps] we in addition to running an arc of 20 amp outlets around the back and sides of the stage also supplied a couple of knife blade disconnects with grommeted holes in the bottom side backstage. Invariably when we booked a sound contractor for a large rig someone would be walking around with a pigtail asking where to tie-in and these boxes got used.
Have you looked at these?
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In the end - no matter what fancy cables and connectors you buy, you'll also need a simple pig tail and a set of big Allen keys available for use at the "bitness" end of the rig as I reckon given your power requirements you'll have occasion to be faced with hard wiring into a service disconnect / main distribution panel using the service side lugs more often than you will be "plugging" into anything. Having the proper NEMA plugs available for adding to your pigtail would be smart but I imagine there will be times that won't help.
FWIW on the couple of stage builds I have been involved in [medium sized venues - 500 to 1,000 peeps] we in addition to running an arc of 20 amp outlets around the back and sides of the stage also supplied a couple of knife blade disconnects with grommeted holes in the bottom side backstage. Invariably when we booked a sound contractor for a large rig someone would be walking around with a pigtail asking where to tie-in and these boxes got used.
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DOH!
I forgot, here's a hot tip for ya:
Every company switch I've ever encountered that could be direct wired, has had a 7/16 hex lug. This is a non-standard size for electrical lugs which typically are either 3/8 or 1/2 inch at that level.
I was an electrician for 20+ years before I started doing theater work and it was the first time I ever needed a 7/16 hex wrench. I had to special order the thing.
Yeah I already have my 7/16" lug... I cheated the others are Klines but good old SEARS came through with both TEE's and standard allen wrenches.
GB, I have to admit that is a really pretty PA rack... Peavey jumped onboard with Crown styling there. We play both kinds of music here: Country and Western... Nice.
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GB, I have to admit that is a really pretty PA rack... Peavey jumped onboard with Crown styling there. We play both kinds of music here: Country and Western... Nice.
BOB
The why is really immaterial. If someone wants a rig the size of a small city and the wherewithal to construct it good for him.
The kind of gigs I've been getting for the last twenty or so years I'd be lucky if I can find three independent 120V 15A feeds. Very often I've had to run an extension into the kitchen area and use one from the stove itself.
I always find it nuts to go into a renovated venue to find a nice stage with two 120V duplexes fed from the same breaker.
Paul
The kind of gigs I've been getting for the last twenty or so years I'd be lucky if I can find three independent 120V 15A feeds. Very often I've had to run an extension into the kitchen area and use one from the stove itself.
I always find it nuts to go into a renovated venue to find a nice stage with two 120V duplexes fed from the same breaker.
Paul
There are so many new products out there. Those Ramtech Distros look pretty nice for portable units. My amp has that stuff built in to all I need to do is plug the rack in.
The current unit uses a twist lock for the cable, but I'll go to a 100 AMP pin connector plug on the cord and cam-loks on the other end; plus a pigtail with bare wires to snap on when I have to manually wire.
Here's what is built into my amp, I will either go with three or four of these total. Simple elegant, sequenced. The breaker style do have an advantage as they will never have timers and stuff fail... That makes for Simple and Elegant. Sequencing via flipping breakers by hand.
BOB
The current unit uses a twist lock for the cable, but I'll go to a 100 AMP pin connector plug on the cord and cam-loks on the other end; plus a pigtail with bare wires to snap on when I have to manually wire.
Here's what is built into my amp, I will either go with three or four of these total. Simple elegant, sequenced. The breaker style do have an advantage as they will never have timers and stuff fail... That makes for Simple and Elegant. Sequencing via flipping breakers by hand.
BOB
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It be a shame not to post Johnny A's amp section.
If I understand correctly the svt is backup. He explanes here;
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=452150
Don't want to hijack the thread in any way, it just seems BOB takes things a step or two further
and since he really digged Johnny's sound I can only hope to experience BOBs SlightlyBiggerBadassMonsterRig one fine day.
B.
If I understand correctly the svt is backup. He explanes here;
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=452150
Don't want to hijack the thread in any way, it just seems BOB takes things a step or two further
and since he really digged Johnny's sound I can only hope to experience BOBs SlightlyBiggerBadassMonsterRig one fine day.B.
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I'd bet it had more to do with him being in the headlining act and actually getting a decent soundcheck....
HEHE...Check this little video of Trans-Siberian orchestra and their "set-up".....it reminded me of what you are up to...I really got a kick out of it!
Damn! Miles and miles of cable.....
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