I'm looking for a new bass rig, and I have about $1000 to spend. I found these 2 stacks in musicians friend, and they seemed like good deals. I want something loud enough to play small clubs and bars. check 'em out Ampeg SWR I've played a few SWRs and I've always liked the tone a lot. I even like the fake modeled SWR on my churches Peavey BAM. But, right now the Ampeg comes with a flight case for the head, and it's 450 watts, where as the SWR is 400. My local guitar store will beat musicians friend's prices, and they deal with both Ampeg and SWR, so I'm sure I'll get it there.