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who has tried out the new Bugera BVV3000?
- Thread starter the Drift
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Funny story, after defending Bugera in this thread my guitarist's 333 blew up the following weekend. He's been using my Marshall since. I'd still love to try one of these out. I'm not going to dump my SVT-II for one of these, but I'd be more willing to take risks with a Bugera.
This is a steaming pile.
I build equipment for export. A CE cert is about 12 times as hard to get as a UL cert, and the CE takes 6 weeks ... tops.
More likely they fear patent problems.
its a conspiricy i tell you
just like the moon landing and feildy being the greatest ever bass player
I had no idea that bugera was made by behringer. Unlike behringer, some bugera amps actually sound pretty decent. I haven't seen any of their bass amps in person so I can't speak for them. The V22 I played a while back sounded pretty good, especially for only $350, and I see them used for about $200 a lot. I had one friend with the 1990 head and 412 cab, and he liked it, I thought it sounded like crap, but the v22 changed my mind about bugera. When Bugera came out I thought it was just rebranded B52 amps because of how cheap they were. B52 and behringer are both pretty much on the bottom of the list of amp brands that I respect, so I thought bugera was going to be crap too, just because I associated it with that level of quality, but when I heard them I was surprised that they didn't sound like total crap, and I was really blown away by how good the V22 sounded.
Behringer and Bugera and divisions of "The Music Group"
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Some is extremely high end gear. They're big. and Make big money. They sleep with their heads on "big pillows of money"
One problem with Bugera is they announce way ahead of time to generate interest. It can take them years to get an amp out. And, they'd be better off sales wise getting on board with the micro heads first.
No big deal copying and old amp design if people want it. If people wanted 1960's Voltswagon beetles, and assuming one could be made safe, you would have little problem coming out with a "LadyBug" that looked the same. Who cares, it's an old design, just made by another company. Ampeg just could never break it's mold and get people to buy new designs from them. And nobody is after the boutiques that copy the internal design.
I hope Bugera remember to add in the clipping diodes that are in the audio path that Ampeg "all tube" design has.
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Some is extremely high end gear. They're big. and Make big money. They sleep with their heads on "big pillows of money"
One problem with Bugera is they announce way ahead of time to generate interest. It can take them years to get an amp out. And, they'd be better off sales wise getting on board with the micro heads first.
No big deal copying and old amp design if people want it. If people wanted 1960's Voltswagon beetles, and assuming one could be made safe, you would have little problem coming out with a "LadyBug" that looked the same. Who cares, it's an old design, just made by another company. Ampeg just could never break it's mold and get people to buy new designs from them. And nobody is after the boutiques that copy the internal design.
I hope Bugera remember to add in the clipping diodes that are in the audio path that Ampeg "all tube" design has.
I emailed Bugera with the question:
When can the BVV3000 be bought in the USA?
Got a reply from the Technical Quality Assurance Analyst:
During the last few weeks our engineers have been hard at work developing some significant and innovative ideas for implementation in the BVV3000. It was still possible to get these ideas into the production line just in time for the first scheduled batches. Nevertheless this will cause a slight shift to the previously announced release dates for the first shipments, but we consider it better to build all of these amps to the full spec. rather than be faced with the issue of upgrading early production examples further down the line. Were hoping to start shipping these 2 models in the weeks following the Winter NAMM show, which means around March 2011. We apologise for the inconvenience, but were certain that the technical improvements will be very much worthwhile.
Your BUGERA Team
Two models?
Next year?
The original model/design must have failed big time.
When can the BVV3000 be bought in the USA?
Got a reply from the Technical Quality Assurance Analyst:
During the last few weeks our engineers have been hard at work developing some significant and innovative ideas for implementation in the BVV3000. It was still possible to get these ideas into the production line just in time for the first scheduled batches. Nevertheless this will cause a slight shift to the previously announced release dates for the first shipments, but we consider it better to build all of these amps to the full spec. rather than be faced with the issue of upgrading early production examples further down the line. Were hoping to start shipping these 2 models in the weeks following the Winter NAMM show, which means around March 2011. We apologise for the inconvenience, but were certain that the technical improvements will be very much worthwhile.
Your BUGERA Team
Two models?
Next year?
The original model/design must have failed big time.
Dropped into my local music store this afternoon that is a Bugera dealer.
He's only carried their guitar amps to date.
This thread prompted me to ask the owner what he thought of the Bugera line.
He said, their really selling and so far they've been great.
Good sounding, good looking, very reasonably priced and to date he's not had a one come back for repairs.
He's gonna check on the BVV3000 and let me know the story.
He's only carried their guitar amps to date.
This thread prompted me to ask the owner what he thought of the Bugera line.
He said, their really selling and so far they've been great.
Good sounding, good looking, very reasonably priced and to date he's not had a one come back for repairs.
He's gonna check on the BVV3000 and let me know the story.
Like anything else behringer, or bugera or whatever the latest buzzword the marketing bimbo came up with, buy more than you need. If you need 12 channels, buy 16 'cause a couple are going to crap out. Likewise if you need 1 bass amp, buy 2 'cause one's going to crap out. Why not just buy something that's going to work when you need it to?
Somewhere in future Africa or India, there's going to be a mountain of behringer crap, all of it missing knobs and power cords because they're the only thing on them worth a damn and impoverished kids burning the insulation off the copper so they can eat that day.....thanks a lot.
Somewhere in future Africa or India, there's going to be a mountain of behringer crap, all of it missing knobs and power cords because they're the only thing on them worth a damn and impoverished kids burning the insulation off the copper so they can eat that day.....thanks a lot.
Still says, "This product is currently not available for sale in the United States and Canada pending verification of compliance with applicable technical standards and regulations." on the Bugera site.
That's cheap BTW... Anyone bought from there before?
I was speaking from my experience with Bugera up until that point. Later on I mentioned that the amp that had me convinced that they held up to some of the rigors of use blew up...
That site has alot of the other amps that havent been released yet for sale. Is i possible that they somehow got a shipment of first-run units before the INFINIUM mods were added?
"BVV3000 INFINIUM
Vintage 300-Watt All-Valve Bass Amplifier Head with INFINIUM Valve Life Multiplier"
I bet B* didn't bother shipping the non-INFINIUM models because it new a Bass amp really needs monitoring and maintenance. They didn't want to get a bad image.
It probably could take a while for these to hit the market. They will be big sellers if they can stay around the non-INFINIUM price point.
Orange has something similar now DIVO
http://www.orangeamps.com/features.asp?ID=238
The competition heats up.
Vintage 300-Watt All-Valve Bass Amplifier Head with INFINIUM Valve Life Multiplier"
I bet B* didn't bother shipping the non-INFINIUM models because it new a Bass amp really needs monitoring and maintenance. They didn't want to get a bad image.
It probably could take a while for these to hit the market. They will be big sellers if they can stay around the non-INFINIUM price point.
Orange has something similar now DIVO
http://www.orangeamps.com/features.asp?ID=238
The competition heats up.
