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Who played in Kenny G live?

This thread got me to listen to some Kenny G on youtube. Truly amazing! Ugly, sappy, over-flourished drivel. I play sax (when not on bass) and I think that even my improvisational vocabulary is beyond the simple minor pentatonic runs he keeps repeating (and I'm no damn good). It's no wonder that he sticks to bland elevator music for fearful little old people. He is speaking right to them and their lifeless habit-filled days and nights.

check this one out from last week.

really fun and excellent sax work. You don't have to like it, but the spot- on intonation, full tone and flowing technical performance is undeniable.
 
check this one out from last week.

really fun and excellent sax work. You don't have to like it, but the spot- on intonation, full tone and flowing technical performance is undeniable.
For those that don't know, the live experience is always that spontaneous! And there was a lot of funk to be had as well. Stevie is amazing!
 
Man...That was great:) I wish I could have been there. When's the next time you guys comming to Vegas? I'm there, even if I have to sell my bass to get a ticket:D

No need, let me check with my tour manager and I'll arrange tix for you Saturday, 8/16 at Lake Las Vegas in Henderson, NV.
Send me a PM if you that works for you.
 
It's good that you get out more and your knowledge base has been expanded. :D

Actually it is interesting that this phenomenon has passed us by completely in the UK.

So if I take the example of Pat Metheny :

I see great reviews for his albums in magazines like JazzWise and imported US Jazz magazines.

His albums are mentioned in reference works like Penguin Guide to Jazz on CD.

If I go to specialist Jazz shops in London - I see promotions/features on Pat Metheny.

If I go to sheet music shops - I see the Pat Metheny Song book and other books

When I go to Jazz workshops/classes, the tutors mention Pat Metheny as a big influence. They discuss his compositions.

When I go to Jazz jams people have suggested we play Pat Metheny tunes and produce lead sheets.

I have played Pat Metheny tunes in groups.

If I listen to radio shows like Jazz on 3 or Jazz requests on the BBC - I have heard Pat Metheny mentioned and his albums with Brad Meldhau etc.


But for Kenny G - nothing - none of the above...:confused:
 
geez Bruce, are you reading any of my responses? I state clearly that I don't think anyone 'should like' anything. There's no debate on a persons right to like/ dislike.
Don't like Kenny, that's your prerogative; I don't like Ornette Coleman, so what?
My original query so long ago was "WHY the harsh attitude towards Kenny?" .

Wel I am very flattered that you have chosen to address me personally- I am a nobody after all, have never played with anybody like Stevie Wonder and all I have said is that you can't force me to like it...and that in the UK it has never been an issue?

But rather than talking to me, why aren't you addressing people who have made comments like this :

This thread got me to listen to some Kenny G on youtube. Truly amazing! Ugly, sappy, over-flourished drivel. I play sax (when not on bass) and I think that even my improvisational vocabulary is beyond the simple minor pentatonic runs he keeps repeating (and I'm no damn good). It's no wonder that he sticks to bland elevator music for fearful little old people. He is speaking right to them and their lifeless habit-filled days and nights.

:confused:
 
Actually it is interesting that this phenomenon has passed us by completely in the UK.

So if I take the example of Pat Metheny :

I see great reviews for his albums in magazines like JazzWise and imported US Jazz magazines.

His albums are mentioned in reference works like Penguin Guide to Jazz on CD.

If I go to specialist Jazz shops in London - I see promotions/features on Pat Metheny.

If I go to sheet music shops - I see the Pat Metheny Song book and other books

When I go to Jazz workshops/classes, the tutors mention Pat Metheny as a big influence. They discuss his compositions.

When I go to Jazz jams people have suggested we play Pat Metheny tunes and produce lead sheets.

I have played Pat Metheny tunes in groups.

If I listen to radio shows like Jazz on 3 or Jazz requests on the BBC - I have heard Pat Metheny mentioned and his albums with Brad Meldhau etc.


But for Kenny G - nothing - none of the above...:confused:

because Kenny's a pop artist!; why WOULD he be mentioned in a jazz seminar? That point seems to escape so many people, it's really baffling. At our biggest time in the early 90's, we were battling Whitney Houston for the #1 pop album in the land. We were #2 for weeks; that's not the jazz chart, that's Billboard pop chart!
I'll say it again; KENNY G IS A POP ARTIST, NOT JAZZ. Sorry for the caps but I think it needed to be done :) More specifically, Kenny categorizes his music as "R&B instrumental". We have a huge African American following here in the states; they understand the difference between jazz and pop music. They love Kenny G for what he is, great R&B instrumental music with lots of slow groove, romantic tunes that are great for setting a 'mood'. I can't tell you how many times guys have come up after the show, with their woman looking a bit sheepish, and said how they love the music for that very reason. Now that's a helpful service, in anyone's estimation!!!!:) \
As for passing the UK by, that's far from true,we just passed YOU by.
We played Wembley arena for 6 straight sold out concerts in the 90's, played Royal Albert Hall, etc. etc. Sorry you couldn't make it but we were there nonetheless.
We played 'Top of the Pops' and several other TV shows, too. Didn't see Metheny on any of them!!!:)
So enough of comparing Kenny G to jazz players, it's ridiculous.
 
Actually it is interesting that this phenomenon has passed us by completely in the UK.

So if I take the example of Pat Metheny :

I see great reviews for his albums in magazines like JazzWise and imported US Jazz magazines.

His albums are mentioned in reference works like Penguin Guide to Jazz on CD.

If I go to specialist Jazz shops in London - I see promotions/features on Pat Metheny.

If I go to sheet music shops - I see the Pat Metheny Song book and other books

When I go to Jazz workshops/classes, the tutors mention Pat Metheny as a big influence. They discuss his compositions.

When I go to Jazz jams people have suggested we play Pat Metheny tunes and produce lead sheets.

I have played Pat Metheny tunes in groups.

If I listen to radio shows like Jazz on 3 or Jazz requests on the BBC - I have heard Pat Metheny mentioned and his albums with Brad Meldhau etc.


But for Kenny G - nothing - none of the above...:confused:

So what? I not sure what point you're trying to make.
 
vail_bass,

Glad you brought up that point about Kenny G being "mood" music, a lot of men and women I know feel the same way. I went to a Kenny G concert at Jones Beach a few years back and the crowd was just loving him he knows how to entertain and engage the audience which is why people go to see him in large numbers.

IMO, a Jazz artist would want to be on the same card as Kenny G at a festival because it will ensure a much wider audience for their own music to be heard.

Bruce,

A question for you:

In setting the mood for a romantic encounter musically which do you think would the most effective at setting the mood?

a. Pat Metheny
b. Kenny G

:D
 
As for passing the UK by, that's far from true,we just passed YOU by.

We played Wembley arena for 6 straight sold out concerts in the 90's, played Royal Albert Hall, etc. etc. Sorry you couldn't make it but we were there nonetheless.

We played 'Top of the Pops' and several other TV shows, too. Didn't see Metheny on any of them!!!:)

Well that is weird as I am a huge music fan and have won many pop quizes and am considered a 'music nerd' by friends.

Also I am sure that I have seen just about every "Top of the Pops" and never saw Kenny G .

I would like to bet if you chose any UK-based TBers and asked them that question they would be say the same as me!

So what? I not sure what point you're trying to make.

Well, that I have heard of most artists, even obscure Jazz artists - and it is surprising to me that Kenny G just has not appeared in any guise - while as I say I am huge music fan and go loads of concerts have bought many thousands of Records and CDs - inlcuding a lot of very obscure stuff!

Bruce,

A question for you:

In setting the mood for a romantic encounter musically which do you think would the most effective at setting the mood?

a. Pat Metheny
b. Kenny G

:D

Sorry - that's not how I listen to music - I give it my full attention as a work of art in its own right - I don't see at as background or aural wallper!

If it's not worth my full attention then I just don't listen - my girlfriend is into guitar-based rock and would love Stevie Ray Vaughan but hates Pat Metheny ...oh and of course has never heard of KennyG! :p

She does like KoB and Horace Silver though..;)
 
Wow.. I'm not sure what part of GB you live in, but when I lived there (for about 6.5 years) Lot's of people knew about and loved Kenny G's music. That whole pop jazz thing did not pass by the British Isles. If the people you ran with were not into that type of music that would be one thing. But to say nobody over there ever heard of Kenny is just silly. And shows your bias. It's almost like you are saying "I don’t like them so they don’t exist"
Check this link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_performers_on_Top_of_the_Pops Kenny G's there, Pat Metheny is not. Maybe he was way too good to play with that list of losers :)




Well that is weird as I am a huge music fan and have won many pop quizes and am considered a 'music nerd' by friends.

Also I am sure that I have seen just about every "Top of the Pops" and never saw Kenny G .

I would like to bet if you chose any UK-based TBers and asked them that question they would be say the same as me!



Well, that I have heard of most artists, even obscure Jazz artists - and it is surprising to me that Kenny G just has not appeared in any guise - while as I say I am huge music fan and go loads of concerts have bought many thousands of Records and CDs - inlcuding a lot of very obscure stuff!



Sorry - that's not how I listen to music - I give it my full attention as a work of art in its own right - I don't see at as background or aural wallper!

If it's not worth my full attention then I just don't listen - my girlfriend is into guitar-based rock and would love Stevie Ray Vaughan but hates Pat Metheny ...oh and of course has never heard of KennyG! :p

She does like KoB and Horace Silver though..;)
 
It must have been a year when I was working hard and devoting time to career rather than music - when I came across TB I had just finished about 10 years where I had had no time for music and TB rekindled my desire to play music with other people again!

Actually there are some real losers on that list - e.g. the Chippendales ...:eek:

Not how I remember the classic years of TOTPs!! ;)

But I would still challenge you to ask another UK -based TBer - like Toasted or bassybill, etc. and see what they say...?
 
It must have been a year when I was working hard and devoting time to career rather than music - when I came across TB I had just finished about 10 years where I had had no time for music and TB rekindled my desire to play music with other people again!

Actually there are some real losers on that list - e.g. the Chippendales ...:eek:

Not how I remember the classic years of TOTPs!! ;)

But I would still challenge you to ask another UK -based TBer - like Toasted or bassybill, etc. and see what they say...?

Dear Bruce,
Who cares if you never heard of Kenny? Nobody, really.
You seem to think, in your narcissistic world, that if you haven't heard of someone, they don't exist or are unimportant. I take back my previous compliment and conclude that you're a self-absorbed, frightened, narrow minded person with whom I choose to waste no further time on. Good luck with your isolated, sheltered life.
 
It must have been a year when I was working hard and devoting time to career rather than music - when I came across TB I had just finished about 10 years where I had had no time for music and TB rekindled my desire to play music with other people again!

Actually there are some real losers on that list - e.g. the Chippendales ...:eek:

Not how I remember the classic years of TOTPs!! ;)

But I would still challenge you to ask another UK -based TBer - like Toasted or bassybill, etc. and see what they say...?

Yep, TOP proves it then..The Chippendales are better than Pat Methaney:D
 
I had a 10 year period where I didn't play my bass at all! I was still listening to music, discovering music & loving music the entire time! I also had a period where I became a jazz snob until I heard The Rippingtons! Brought me back to reality! Which is.........a good song is a good song no matter what the genre! Not only that, when I did return to music, I found I had to learn and play music of all types (including Kenny G tunes) whether I liked them or not. Once I heard the melody, the songs weren't that bad and I learned to actually like the songs. The moral of the story.......having an open mind is not so bad! Try it sometime!
 
Dear Bruce,
Who cares if you never heard of Kenny? Nobody, really.
You seem to think, in your narcissistic world, that if you haven't heard of someone, they don't exist or are unimportant. I take back my previous compliment and conclude that you're a self-absorbed, frightened, narrow minded person with whom I choose to waste no further time on. Good luck with your isolated, sheltered life.

Hmmm oh well - I was just interested in whether any other UK TBers had the same view as me...?
 
In setting the mood for a romantic encounter musically which do you think would the most effective at setting the mood?

a. Pat Metheny
b. Kenny G

:D

How 'about option_C-
Miles & 'Trane at Stockholm, 1960.
Hey, some like it rough!
;)
...and if you stumble upon Jerry Maguire, Tom Cruise's character ends up playing Mingus' "Haitian Fight Song" as date music.

Seriously, Metheny has his share of Jazz-lite/Pop, too (the Brasilian-based material?).
It's not all Song X for him.

From what I've heard-
Back in the day, John Klemmer's Barefoot Ballet was the album for "setting the mood".
 
How 'about option_C-
Miles & 'Trane at Stockholm, 1960.
Hey, some like it rough!
;)
...and if you stumble upon Jerry Maguire, Tom Cruise's character ends up playing Mingus' "Haitian Fight Song" as date music.

Seriously, Metheny has his share of Jazz-lite/Pop, too (the Brasilian-based material?).
It's not all Song X for him.

From what I've heard-
Back in the day, John Klemmer's Barefoot Ballet was the album for "setting the mood".
Don't forget the 'We Live Here' cd! Full of drum machine grooves! How dare he step out the box??!! I wonder what the 'purists' had to say about that one?!
 

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