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whole step

Discussion in 'General Instruction [BG]' started by MCBTunes, Aug 28, 2005.


  1. how do you do a whole step from the G string to the E string?
    in standard tuning? I'm just working on my patterns for major scale.

    I know down a string is just back 3 frets.... like from 5 on E to 2 on A... but Im not sure how to go from say a root at G on the D string and use the E and A strings aswell.
     
  2. Turock

    Turock Supporting Member

    Apr 30, 2000
    Melnibone
    I'd like to help you, but I have no idea what you are talking about. The distance you are asking about is not a whole step; it is 4 whole steps and one 1/2 step.
     
  3. what.... I must be confused then....

    Say G is the root, 3rd fret on E..... you play whole to the 5th,
    then whole... you can either go to B(2nd fret A)(which is what I was talking about or B(7th fret E).
    right?

    Now to what I was asking....

    Say your starting the scale on the D string. Still Lets make it an E(2nd fret)... lets go whole to 4, then whole to 1 on G, then half to 2, then whole to 4, and whole to 6, now is there any way for this pattern to take me back up to the E string without continueing on G? 6 on G is C# which on E is the 9th fret.... any way I can tie that togeather? Now that I think about it a little trial and error with different starting places would help me out here. But any help is still appreciated
     
  4. Correlli

    Correlli

    Apr 2, 2004
    New Zealand
    Could you post up a diagram that illustrates exactly your query.

    I'll try and help. No promises though.
     
  5. G-----------
    D--------3--
    A-----6-----
    E-----------

    Thats the pattern for going forward a whole step when dropping down a string.... go down and move back 3.

    Now....

    G------6-----
    D-----------
    A-----------
    E-----------

    Now instead of Moving a whole step to 8 on G.... is there anyway to "memorize" where the next note would be on the E string instead of staying on the G....

    Like a little.... 3 strings up and 3 notes over deal(as an example) without knowing the note.
     
  6. Mark Wilson

    Mark Wilson Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Jan 12, 2005
    Toronto, Ontario
    Endorsing Artist: Elixir® Strings
    Do you mean is there an easy way to learn your notes?
    From what I can tell, you want to go from a C#(On the G string) to a G on the E-string.

    this thread is giving me a headache... :rollno:
     
  7. Phil Smith

    Phil Smith Mr Sumisu 2 U

    May 30, 2000
    Peoples Republic of Brooklyn
    Creator of: iGigBook for Android/iOS
    MCBTunes, why not just list the individual notes that you want to play?
     
  8. Mark Wilson

    Mark Wilson Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Jan 12, 2005
    Toronto, Ontario
    Endorsing Artist: Elixir® Strings
    Just re-read that your working on a Major Scale Pattern.
    here's the formula for a Major scale:

    Whole Step
    Whole Step
    Half Step
    Whole Step
    Whole Step
    Whole Step
    Half Step
     
  9. Whafrodamus

    Whafrodamus

    Oct 29, 2003
    Andover, MA

    G------6-----
    D-----------
    A-----------
    E-----------

    To


    G------8-----
    D-----------
    A-----------
    E-----------

    Instead of playing the whole step on the next string, just move two frets over. :)
     
  10. Turock

    Turock Supporting Member

    Apr 30, 2000
    Melnibone
    I don't understand why you refer to this as a "whole step". It is not.
     
  11. Whafrodamus

    Whafrodamus

    Oct 29, 2003
    Andover, MA
    .. Yes it is o_0
     
  12. Mark Wilson

    Mark Wilson Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Jan 12, 2005
    Toronto, Ontario
    Endorsing Artist: Elixir® Strings
    He wants to play that on the E-string, only using one whole step. I still have yet to figure out if he means an octive or not:\
     
  13. Turock

    Turock Supporting Member

    Apr 30, 2000
    Melnibone
    Yes, you're right. I've mis-read the whole idea. When he said "like from 5 on E to 2 on A... " I was thinking of the A-note on the d-string at the 2nd fret. In his next post, I thought he was still saying the same thing. Sorry, I should have read more closely.
     
  14. Whafrodamus

    Whafrodamus

    Oct 29, 2003
    Andover, MA
    Ooh. This is confusing.
     
  15. Whafrodamus

    Whafrodamus

    Oct 29, 2003
    Andover, MA
    It's all good. We all misread things.
     
  16. Bassist4Life

    Bassist4Life

    Dec 17, 2004
    Buffalo, NY
    MCBTunes,

    This is the only part of your thread that I really follow and understand.

    E string 3rd fret = G
    E string 5th fret = A
    E string 7th fret = B AND A string 2nd fret = B

    G to A = whole step
    A to B = whole step

    If I were playing, I would play the B on the 2nd fret of the A string (in most situations). I would not play the B on the 7th fret of the E string.

    That's as far as I can get with your thread. Sorry.

    Joe
     
  17. I think I get what you're asking.

    You want to be able to play a note on the G string and find the note a whole step above it somewhere on the E string? To play a unison (like the G string, open, and the same note on the E) you need to play the note on the E string 15 frets higher than the one on the G string to make them the same. Open G == 15th fret on the E. 1st fret on G == 16th fret on E. And so on. And to play the next note up, you just add two frets to that.

    Is that what you were asking?
     
  18. oh boy I just started a huge mess.... PERHAPS the reason no one gets it is because it doesnt work that way... let me TAB out the major scale here though....

    G-----2-4-6-7-9-11-13-14
    D---
    A---
    E---

    Now, what I wanted was to instead of playing all the notes down the G string was to say... instead of going to the 7 or 6 on G move up to the E string and play downward instead of across..... and I'm looking for a "trick" orpattern to do so.

    6 fret on G = C#
    9 fret on E = C#

    correct? I just want to turn it into a pattern so I dont need to think about the note so much before I play it. I know, I'm a dirty rotten scoundrel.

    I know when playing the scales there are multiple ways of playing the scale. SO I figured instead of playing all the notes on the G string I would beable to move up to the E. I dont know every note of every scale, and I didnt even have the fretboard totally memorized yet. So, I like patterns :).

    Just dont turn this into a "patterns are bad" thread.
     
  19. Bassist4Life

    Bassist4Life

    Dec 17, 2004
    Buffalo, NY
    Let me see if I got this right...

    You want to figure out how to play a major scale up and/or down one string. Right?

    Joe
     
  20. Bassist4Life

    Bassist4Life

    Dec 17, 2004
    Buffalo, NY
    If you want to play a G Major scale up the E string:

    Frets: 3, 5, 7, 8, 10, 12, 14, 15
    Notes: G, A, B, C, D, E, F#, G

    I have never really played a scale in this way...

    Hope this helps.
    Joe