# whole step

Discussion in 'General Instruction [BG]' started by MCBTunes, Aug 28, 2005.

1. ### MCBTunes

Dec 17, 2004
how do you do a whole step from the G string to the E string?
in standard tuning? I'm just working on my patterns for major scale.

I know down a string is just back 3 frets.... like from 5 on E to 2 on A... but Im not sure how to go from say a root at G on the D string and use the E and A strings aswell.

2. ### Turock

Apr 30, 2000
Melnibone
I'd like to help you, but I have no idea what you are talking about. The distance you are asking about is not a whole step; it is 4 whole steps and one 1/2 step.

3. ### MCBTunes

Dec 17, 2004
what.... I must be confused then....

Say G is the root, 3rd fret on E..... you play whole to the 5th,
then whole... you can either go to B(2nd fret A)(which is what I was talking about or B(7th fret E).
right?

Now to what I was asking....

Say your starting the scale on the D string. Still Lets make it an E(2nd fret)... lets go whole to 4, then whole to 1 on G, then half to 2, then whole to 4, and whole to 6, now is there any way for this pattern to take me back up to the E string without continueing on G? 6 on G is C# which on E is the 9th fret.... any way I can tie that togeather? Now that I think about it a little trial and error with different starting places would help me out here. But any help is still appreciated

4. ### Correlli

Apr 2, 2004
New Zealand
Could you post up a diagram that illustrates exactly your query.

I'll try and help. No promises though.

5. ### MCBTunes

Dec 17, 2004
G-----------
D--------3--
A-----6-----
E-----------

Thats the pattern for going forward a whole step when dropping down a string.... go down and move back 3.

Now....

G------6-----
D-----------
A-----------
E-----------

Now instead of Moving a whole step to 8 on G.... is there anyway to "memorize" where the next note would be on the E string instead of staying on the G....

Like a little.... 3 strings up and 3 notes over deal(as an example) without knowing the note.

6. ### Mark WilsonSupporting Member

Jan 12, 2005
Toronto, Ontario
Endorsing Artist: ElixirÂ® Strings
Do you mean is there an easy way to learn your notes?
From what I can tell, you want to go from a C#(On the G string) to a G on the E-string.

7. ### Phil SmithMr Sumisu 2 U

May 30, 2000
Peoples Republic of Brooklyn
Creator of: iGigBook for Android/iOS
MCBTunes, why not just list the individual notes that you want to play?

8. ### Mark WilsonSupporting Member

Jan 12, 2005
Toronto, Ontario
Endorsing Artist: ElixirÂ® Strings
here's the formula for a Major scale:

Whole Step
Whole Step
Half Step
Whole Step
Whole Step
Whole Step
Half Step

9. ### Whafrodamus

Oct 29, 2003
Andover, MA

G------6-----
D-----------
A-----------
E-----------

To

G------8-----
D-----------
A-----------
E-----------

Instead of playing the whole step on the next string, just move two frets over.

10. ### Turock

Apr 30, 2000
Melnibone
I don't understand why you refer to this as a "whole step". It is not.

11. ### Whafrodamus

Oct 29, 2003
Andover, MA
.. Yes it is o_0

12. ### Mark WilsonSupporting Member

Jan 12, 2005
Toronto, Ontario
Endorsing Artist: ElixirÂ® Strings
He wants to play that on the E-string, only using one whole step. I still have yet to figure out if he means an octive or not:\

13. ### Turock

Apr 30, 2000
Melnibone
Yes, you're right. I've mis-read the whole idea. When he said "like from 5 on E to 2 on A... " I was thinking of the A-note on the d-string at the 2nd fret. In his next post, I thought he was still saying the same thing. Sorry, I should have read more closely.

14. ### Whafrodamus

Oct 29, 2003
Andover, MA
Ooh. This is confusing.

15. ### Whafrodamus

Oct 29, 2003
Andover, MA
It's all good. We all misread things.

16. ### Bassist4Life

Dec 17, 2004
Buffalo, NY
MCBTunes,

E string 3rd fret = G
E string 5th fret = A
E string 7th fret = B AND A string 2nd fret = B

G to A = whole step
A to B = whole step

If I were playing, I would play the B on the 2nd fret of the A string (in most situations). I would not play the B on the 7th fret of the E string.

Joe

17. ### lemur821

May 4, 2004
St. Louis, MO, U.S.
I think I get what you're asking.

You want to be able to play a note on the G string and find the note a whole step above it somewhere on the E string? To play a unison (like the G string, open, and the same note on the E) you need to play the note on the E string 15 frets higher than the one on the G string to make them the same. Open G == 15th fret on the E. 1st fret on G == 16th fret on E. And so on. And to play the next note up, you just add two frets to that.

Is that what you were asking?

18. ### MCBTunes

Dec 17, 2004
oh boy I just started a huge mess.... PERHAPS the reason no one gets it is because it doesnt work that way... let me TAB out the major scale here though....

G-----2-4-6-7-9-11-13-14
D---
A---
E---

Now, what I wanted was to instead of playing all the notes down the G string was to say... instead of going to the 7 or 6 on G move up to the E string and play downward instead of across..... and I'm looking for a "trick" orpattern to do so.

6 fret on G = C#
9 fret on E = C#

correct? I just want to turn it into a pattern so I dont need to think about the note so much before I play it. I know, I'm a dirty rotten scoundrel.

I know when playing the scales there are multiple ways of playing the scale. SO I figured instead of playing all the notes on the G string I would beable to move up to the E. I dont know every note of every scale, and I didnt even have the fretboard totally memorized yet. So, I like patterns .

19. ### Bassist4Life

Dec 17, 2004
Buffalo, NY
Let me see if I got this right...

You want to figure out how to play a major scale up and/or down one string. Right?

Joe

20. ### Bassist4Life

Dec 17, 2004
Buffalo, NY
If you want to play a G Major scale up the E string:

Frets: 3, 5, 7, 8, 10, 12, 14, 15
Notes: G, A, B, C, D, E, F#, G

I have never really played a scale in this way...

Hope this helps.
Joe