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Why are our 412 cabinets different from guitarists?

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remainthesame

Sep 24, 2008
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#1
Hey guys, I was at a show the other day and I got to thinking...

Most of the 412s I've seen have speakers placed diagonally and the cabinet is about the same dimensions as a 610.

My question is, why don't they just make them square like guitar cabs? I'm sure there's probably a few manufacturers who do, but none that I've seen so far.

I'm not looking for a 412 so you don't have to recommend me anything, I just want to know why they do it.
 
#2
You will also notice that they are a lot deeper. The same goes for 4x10s.
It is a matter of tuning. Most guitar cabs are either closed or open, rarely ported.
A guitar cab barely ever goes under 100 Hz. We use a lot more power and need to go much lower. It takes bigger cabs.
 
#5
Bass_Pounder said:
Because speaker size has nothing to do with how it performs :rolleyes:
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no no no i know that. you guys arent understanding what im getting at. this isnt a noob question. im asking why dont they make 412s SQUARE like guitar 412s.

i know drivers are tuned differently. i know speaker size doesnt matter. and thats the point i was trying to make when you quoted me.

i can already tell this thread is going to be another giant misunderstanding
 
#14
Chef said:
Personally, I like a taller cab, as it gets the sound up closer to my ears.
This is why I mostly play two 112's, stacked vertical.
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^ Absolutely! I've also had success with different kick back designs. And given the choice between two 4x12 cabs, one square and one verticle, I'd choose the verticle one. Although, I'll never buy another 4x anything can again, as long as as I'm the one lugging it.
 
#19
Zoa said:
diagonal 412=somewhat less awful dispersion.
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OP: ^^^ this is getting closer to the real reason.

Setting the drivers in a diagonal arrangement is to reduce comb filtering. The best arrangement is to have the drivers positioned perfectly vertical. Diagonal positioning of the cones is finding a happy medium between the worst positioning (horizontal) and the best positioning (vertical).
 

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