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Discussion in 'Pickups & Electronics [BG]' started by georgiagoodie, Mar 5, 2014.

  1. georgiagoodie

    georgiagoodie It's all fun&games 'til the winged monkeys show up Supporting Member

    Jan 8, 2008
    Atlanta, GA
    After all these years electric guitars and basses are STILL using these sorry 1/4" jacks!
    They suck! I know it! You know it!
    I have been installing stereo input jacks (wired for mono) in my basses, so it will at least be a little more stable, BUT.....
    SURELY in the 21st Century we can come up with a better way of plugging in than this.

    (I know. I know. "That's not important right now, and STOP CALLING ME SURELY!")
  2. lakefx

    lakefx Supporting Member

    Sep 14, 2012
    Because if we change it you need to replace the jack in your vintage instrument or carry at least 2 types of cables to gigs.
  3. jessicabass


    Dec 22, 2009
    We have wireless.
  4. BlueTalon

    BlueTalon Happy Cynic

    Mar 20, 2011
    Spokane, Washington
    Endorsing Artist: Turnstyle Switch
    Stereo input jacks? Can you elaborate? (preferably with pictures...)
  5. It would be a major pain in the posterior to have to retrofit millions of instruments to some 'newfangled' system, just because one guy has a beef with it. The old 1/4" doesn't bother me at all; why should I have to change?
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  6. 1958Bassman


    Oct 20, 2007
    Because they work, they're relatively inexpensive and they pull out when the user steps on the cable and didn't loop it around the strap button?

    How is it more stable when you use a stereo jack?
  7. ngh


    Feb 6, 2013
    brooklyn, ny
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  8. EricssonB


    Apr 5, 2011
    CoSpgs, CO.
    TR and TRS are great. They're simple and sturdy.

    Do you have a better option?

    Speakon seems to have replaced the critical, high power applications. That's good. I don't need that in my instruments.
  9. I'm sure in theory there's something better. But in most people's opinion it's not really broke. I plug my guitar in, kick ass tone comes out. I've been using the same 17' cable for 14 years now to practice and gig on bass and guitar and not one issue.
  10. ngh


    Feb 6, 2013
    brooklyn, ny
    if it ain't broke, fix it till' it is.
  11. BlueTalon

    BlueTalon Happy Cynic

    Mar 20, 2011
    Spokane, Washington
    Endorsing Artist: Turnstyle Switch
    For me, that would be perfectly acceptable, assuming the change from 1/4" is to something that's clearly superior.
  12. BlueTalon

    BlueTalon Happy Cynic

    Mar 20, 2011
    Spokane, Washington
    Endorsing Artist: Turnstyle Switch
  13. mccartneyman


    Dec 22, 2006
    Pittsburgh, PA
    Managing Editor, Bass Guitars Editor, MusicGearReview.com
    Right-angled plug at the guitar and putting the cable through the strap should eliminate 99.99% of the problem of stepping on your cable and yanking it out. Back in 1971, my band opened for The James Gang and Glass Harp in Ohio. With Joe Walsh and Phil Keaggy looking on, our guitarist stepped on his cord and yanked it out of his Les Paul in the middle of the "Heartbreaker" cadenza by Zep. :eek:
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  14. RedMoses

    RedMoses Supporting Member

    Jul 4, 2012
    No option has presentaed better tone, more convenience and a cheaper price point to date.

    Amps and Cabs have been using Speakon conenctors as of late and they have been a source of irritation a lot the past couple years for me as my GB head only has speakon outs.
  15. Dave W

    Dave W Supporting Member

    Mar 1, 2007
    White Plains
    Why do they suck? I've never really had a problem with them at all.
  16. tobias3469

    tobias3469 Supporting Member

    Sep 28, 2013
    West Los Angeles
    maybe a snap jack magnet connector minus the 1/4"...


    Those magnets are surprisingly strong for those of you who haven't tried one.
  17. What exactly do you find to be wrong with 1/4" connectors and jacks? They serve their purpose perfectly, allowing 360 degree rotation, and quick disconnect when cables are put under tension. They are also appropriately sized to be sturdy and easy to work with. I suppose the one disadvantage is the open connectors that can accidentally be handled, causing noise, and the momentary short from tip to sleeve when plugged in. However, these aren't that big of a drawback, for the application they are used in.
  18. MR PC

    MR PC

    Dec 1, 2007
    Using stereo 1/4" jacks male or female is PIA, ime. No improvement in sound whatsoever.

    You can get locking 1/4" input panel jacks from Nuetric, they work real well if that's what you need. I've got one **on the rear** on my EUB. IMO, it's gonna be butt ugly to mount one of those on the front of a bass guitar though. Plus the first time somebody trips on your cable, you are going down with your bass.

  19. BlueTalon

    BlueTalon Happy Cynic

    Mar 20, 2011
    Spokane, Washington
    Endorsing Artist: Turnstyle Switch
    Whenever I have problems with a cable/jack connection, ~99% of the time it's caused by a lose wire in the plug, and only ~1% of the time does the problem have anything to do with the jack.

    While the magnetic connection is interesting, I suspect the source of potential problems would remain the same. I don't see how a magnetic connection would be a real improvement over the right-angle 1/4" plug I use, also mentioned by mccartneyman.
  20. cnltb


    May 28, 2005

    They work. No?
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