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Why aren't you using tube amps?

Modestly powered tube amps aren't too heavy to me. My PF-50 weighs in under 20 lbs and is rated at 50 watts. My Triptop with KT88s puts out around 60 watts and weighs a little under 32 lbs. My V4B clocks 100watts and is just under 38 lbs. That's about my limit for reasonable weight. I haven't put the PF-50 to the test of loud enough, but the V4B is more than enough for as loud as I want to get. None of these weights would work in the convenience of a combo amp. But as stand alone heads, I can easily manage their weight.
My dad's building (or rebuilding) a tube amp based on KT-88s and an ultralinear output transformer. Back in the 1970s he built a stereo version of it, but it weighed close to 80 pounds. He plays accordion with an electronics tone generator (midi setup nowadays), so he used one channel for his bass, and the other channel for the right hand reeds and synth.

Anyways, he pulled it out of storage, cut down the chassis and started rebuilding it as a single channel output; he's 75 now, and an 80 pound amp is a bit much for him. The transformer is something he got out of an old PA system from the late 60s. It has a 200W core, and has a myriad of taps and isolated windings on the secondary for various load impedances, including 25 and 70V line. The transformer appears it might have been a custom design made by Hammond; It works flat from 20Hz to way out past 150Khz!!

He had an interesting way to obtain a bias supply, a small, low current 120V / 12V transformer with the 12V winding connected to the 6.3V filament winding on the large power transformer. This yields about 60V AC on the 120V winding, perfect for a full wave rectified bias supply, rather than using a large power resistor off the B+ windings with half wave rectifiction.
 
Played through a used Eden 280w tube amp once... in a pawn shop.... it was lovely.

Took a look at the price tag, and left smiling... with money in my pocket, having played on a tube amp.

I dunno - the smile you get while playing one on stage can be better than money in your pocket... After all, life is short - too short not to enjoy it to the fullest, IMO - and we all know that money comes and goes...
 
What aren't tube amps doing that keeps you from using them?

Weight will surely be a big factor. How light would they have to get for you to consider it?

What other features aren't common to tube amps that you require?

Classic amps like my B-15N(C), typically don’t have built in DI’s, weigh 85 lbs, and only produce 25 watts RMS. An Ibanez Promethian 3110 has 12x the power, a DI, and is 23.81lbs. Less than a third of the B-15’s weight.

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I dunno - the smile you get while playing one on stage can be better than money in your pocket... After all, life is short - too short not to enjoy it to the fullest, IMO - and we all know that money comes and goes...

I can't argue any of that... Enjoying life to its fullest IS very subjective, and to me, a tube amp is
not a major player in that equation. Maybe.... someday... I'll get good enough to play on stage,
till then, I'll suffer through my SS amp.... start playing more blues maybe? :thumbsup:
 
That's something that irks me, When an up and coming artist records an old standard, but they jack around with the arrangement or rhythm syncopation in an attempt to modernize it, or intentionally mocking it. In my opinion, this is being disrespectful towards the music.

We play Vince Neil's Viva Las Vegas and is one of our best crowd pleasers. Go figure.
 
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If you're recording a cover... you probably do need to do SOMETHING different. But there certainly have been a bunch of covers made that totally killed the song. I can't believe it took someone 80 years to cover "Heart and Soul" and it sounds like the only version they've ever heard is the neighbor kid playing "his version" on the piano.
 
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I can't argue any of that... Enjoying life to its fullest IS very subjective, and to me, a tube amp is
not a major player in that equation. Maybe.... someday... I'll get good enough to play on stage,
till then, I'll suffer through my SS amp.... start playing more blues maybe? :thumbsup:

To each their own, I say - I gigged quite a bit with Squier basses into Peavey SS amps and cabs for more than a couple years before I could afford better/nicer stuff - and it didn't slow me down a bit...
 
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I realize this is the opposite of what the thread is asking about hence could be considered to be a troll answer but...I'm still using tube amps after 50 years because SS amps (IMHO) just don't have the presence a good tube amp has. I'm 65 and still lugging a full SVT set up, in fact I brought a head on the plane with me to Peru. I am thinking of picking up a micro head for the plane though, an SVT-4 Pro:laugh:. They have a couple of tubes in them but I still consider them to be SS heads, anything with a SS output to me is a SS head and sounds and feels like a SS head.
 
TL;DR Getting old is no fun.

If had roadies I wouldn't care how big and heavy my gear was. Unfortunately I don't and probably never will so while I am doing the schlepping it has to be light and small enough to fit my car.

Anyone who suggests that I should "man up" or "hit the gym" is very welcome to schlep my gear for me (I originally typed something else but then realised it wouldn't get past the profanity filter) because at my age neither of those things is going to happen. Every week I am noticing new aches and pains and have finally come to accept that I can no longer do what I did 50 years ago and have to adjust accordingly.
 
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TL;DR Getting old is no fun.

If had roadies I wouldn't care how big and heavy my gear was. Unfortunately I don't and probably never will so while I am doing the schlepping it has to be light and small enough to fit my car.

Anyone who suggests that I should "man up" or "hit the gym" is very welcome to schlep my gear for me (I originally typed something else but then realised it wouldn't get past the profanity filter) because at my age neither of those things is going to happen. Every week I am noticing new aches and pains and have finally come to accept that I can no longer do what I did 50 years ago and have to adjust accordingly.
I'm 72.5. Right there with ya. Bought a couple of Rumbles and sold the heavy"stuff"
 
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I think we need to come to terms with this. Truth be told, we are scared of tubes. I'm sure the reasons vary, but I was shocked by a tube amp in electronics class in high school, then there was the God forsaken tube TACAN in the A-4's in the Navy that could only handle a few landings, now the glow is exactly the same as SWAMBO's eyes when she's really, really pissed off at me!

FLY NAVY @Al Kraft !
 
I accidently touched a plate circuit tone control sitting at 330v dc who knows what AC (probably not much since it was in my apartment) and 10mA or so and it felt like someone jammed an ice pick all the way up my finger to the 2nd knuckle. I still have tube amps and still mess with em (well, before I had a kid)
 
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I think we need to come to terms with this. Truth be told, we are scared of tubes. I'm sure the reasons vary, but I was shocked by a tube amp in electronics class in high school, then there was the God forsaken tube TACAN in the A-4's in the Navy that could only handle a few landings, now the glow is exactly the same as SWAMBO's eyes when she's really, really pissed off at me!

FLY NAVY @Al Kraft !
Breaks of Naval Air( 2 Westpac cruises 66 & 67, USS Yorktown, USS Enterprise)