Why HASN'T Gibson fixed neck dive on Thunderbirds?

[ballstomper]

"A bigger problem was the fact that the headstocks would snap off if you looked at them hard enough"

i just bought a bass form a guitar guy and he said to me "you dont really have a gibson unless the neck has snapped and been repaired". and he's a fan! i love it.

i think t-birds sound rad...if the neck snaps, fix it...you'll be the only one who knows...with a headstock that size the neck dive isnt surprising...

anybody have a fender with neck dive issues??? i have an mia jazz with the thick-keyed schaller tuners and the resting position is like 4 o'clock...it's only a problem when i pose like rocky... but then i dont need to play anymore because i am already triumphant

 

[bassman275]

If this problem has always been there, why hasn't Gibson done anything to fix it?

SO not to change the prerequisite of having to be a MAN to play one....

 

[sethlow3]

They haven't done what Fender finally has. Listen to the bass community and make changes.

 

[Panther]

Interesting....would anybody else with a recently made Thunderbird step forward?

Mine's fine...

Besides....aren't you bass players supposed to have a bit of muscle?

 

[Nedmundo]

SO not to change the prerequisite of having to be a MAN to play one....

Tell that to The Donnas' bassist!

 

[JustOpenYourMind]

Interesting....would anybody else with a recently made Thunderbird step forward?

I really think that post ends the thread, I mean everyone who's just bitching about gibson not doing this or that obviously never done any research or never played a newer one...

So now we have a confirmation that Gibson IS doing something to fix the problem and IS listening to feedback

 

[detracti]

Because, though they build them, no one at the Gibson company actually has ever played bass. It's obvious from most of their designs.

That's how it's always looked to me too. Their bass designs are essentially just copies of their guitar designs.

Where do you move strap buttons, from-to, to get better balance?

 

[RED5]

Where do you move strap buttons, from-to, to get better balance?[/QUOTE]

Mine hangs right with the front peg dead center of the neck heel, on the back. And the rear peg halfway up from the centerline on the rear upper bout. A 4 inch leather strap adds traction.

 

[poomwah]

mines not a gibson, so this won't help (those are set necks right) I've always had a habit of putting my strap buttons on one of my neck screws regardless of what kind of bass it was, except for my ripper which is a set neck, I moved the button to the heel, just liked the way the strap sat flat instead of twisting, why, I dont know. But anyway, I also heard about the dreaded neck dive of the t-birds, and it was there and I could have lived with it if i had to, but I just moved the button like I always do, and it solved the problem :]
now however I'm really paranoid about the snapping headstock thing I've been reading about

 

[Baird6869]

You guys are nuts!

We are talking about the neck of a bass, not a 25lb dumbell! It isn't that difficult to basically just lightly hold the neck?

Sheesh!

 

[poomwah]

You guys are nuts!

We are talking about the neck of a bass, not a 25lb dumbell! It isn't that difficult to basically just lightly hold the neck?

Sheesh!

its not THAT big a deal, its just a minor annoyance, if you let go of it for whatever reason, you have to reach quite a ways down to pick it back up.
And the neck dive can make tuning awkward too

 

[Baird6869]

And the neck dive can make tuning awkward too

THAT I agree with. I noticed that with my SG Reissue. Complete pain in the a$$.

 

[AndrewClaycomb]

I had one a few years ago and I did notice the neck dive, here is a pick of me playing in 2004 i think. Notice the neck.

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This is an epiphone also.

 

[bryan bailey]

thats an epiphone, the strap button on the top horn is worse off for neckdive than at the heel of the neck.

 

[The Golden Boy]

Their bass designs are essentially just copies of their guitar designs.

Where do you move strap buttons, from-to, to get better balance?

The Firebird and Thunderbird were designed together by Ray Dietrich.

Move the front strap button from it's location on the edge of the body "above" the neck to the heel of the neck- in the same position it would be on an SG or EB-2 or ES-335...

 

[The Golden Boy]

If this problem has always been there, why hasn't Gibson done anything to fix it?

What would you propose to "fix" this?

I don't see it as much of a problem. Any instrument has its quirks.

 

[Coeball]

I have played on and the neck dive is not so bad that It is unplayable. However my one concern is that the the action can't be
adjusted (I think it is way to low)

 

[T-Bird]

Hi.

However my one concern is that the the action can't be
adjusted (I think it is way to low)

Even with the original EB-0 bridge it's adjustable (the intonation somewhat less) so how can that be?

Or are you talking about an Epi with a incorrect neck-pocket angle. Those seem to be around.

Regards
Sam

 

[Coeball]

On the one I played it looked like the saddle was adjusted to maximum height.

 

[lug]

its not THAT big a deal, its just a minor annoyance,

...like a toothache that goes on and on and on...UNTL YOU RUN SCREAMING FROM THE ROOM!!!!! AAAAARRRRRGGGGHHHHH!