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Why is Fiesta Red so rare?

#22
I've posted these before but here are a few pics of my Fiesta Red 64 Jazz.

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#26
Floridabwoy said:
$25???? The Paint is $15, the nitro is $15, S&S is $10 and primer.

I have never refined a bass. Is it really not that bad? I am afraid.

Maybe I will buy an SX p for my first attempt.
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Seriously DO NOT DO THAT! especially if you're worried about $50 for materials. because if you do it and find out exactly how easy it is when you follow instructions and your paint job comes out good youre gonna be pissed wishing you had done it to the Fender you wanted to.

whats the worst that can happen with the fender. you spray it and it comes out crappy so you invest another $30 and lightly sand and respray a top layer again knowing where you made mistakes before and it comes out money the next time around. if youre REALLY not comfy doing it go to a local body shop and pay one of their spray jockeys an extra $20 to spray it for you in a booth and cure it for an hour or so.

either way its cheaper than the extra $150 youre gonna spen on an SX as a test canvas...and youll be getting exactly what you want..youll never pull the cash back outta the sx if you find youre not into the bass itself...thats like buying a $3k car and putting on $2k rims on it.

just my $.02 but its your money ;)
 
#28
Sneha1965's fiesta red is a totally different color from the "Ensenada" fiesta red on my Classic '50s.

If mine were that color I might hang on to it, but I've already found a buyer since I have an AV '57 on order (in two-tone sunburst).
 
#30
EagleMoon said:
Buy some paint from ReRanch and do it yourself. Total cost about $25. :)
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If the OP doesn't have a lot of the finishing supplies on hand the project will cost quite a bit more than 25 bux. I did a refinish of a jazz bass this summer using ReRanch products, and the total was close to more like 100 bux. ReRanch makes great products and it is true that if you follow the instructions and take your time you will get a great result. Currently my bass body is in my utility room doing the 30 day cure waiting to be wet sanded and buffed. So here is the breakdown on the costs

$10 - Stripper and stripping supplies. The OP may have to invest in a heat gun to get the poly finish off. I used a lot of sand paper and A LOT of elbow grease

$20 - Various grades of sand paper. The OP may save here if he has this already on hand, but I needed to purchase grades from 60 grit up through 2000.

$ 8 - Oil based grain filler. The body of a Precision is most likely ash which has a very open grain and MUST be filled

$ 12 - 1 can sanding sealer.

$ 5-12 Primer. Depending on whether you use re ranch or hardware store

$ 12 x 2 - Color. You will most likey need 2 cans for this project. Red is one of the most difficult colors to get coverage with and you will need multiple coats. One can't won't be enough

$ 12 x 2 Nitro lacquer. You will want to put 2 cans of clear on MINIMUM. 3 would be even better because when it cures you need to wet sand and buff.

$ 10- Buffing compound. If the OP doesn't have a buffer then he might want to get the buffing attachments that StewMac has for hand held drills. These cost 13 bux each plus shipping.

Total cost so far around $110.


So here you have it. You don't refinish to save money. You refinish something to make it a specific way you want it.

The cost of the project can be reduced somwhat if you have other products available in your area. On the ReRanch site a lot of folks have had good results using Duplicolr Acrylic lacquer color that can be had at any Auto supply store

You can save on clear lacquer buy purchasing Deft which is about 7 bux a can. I buy it in my town at any Ace Hardware. If you have Menards in your area they have Watco lacquer for $5.99 a can, and many folks on the ReRanch site have used that with good results. For sanding sealer I bought some recently at a paint store for about 5 bux a can.
 
#31
your idol said:
Seriously DO NOT DO THAT! especially if you're worried about $50 for materials. because if you do it and find out exactly how easy it is when you follow instructions and your paint job comes out good youre gonna be pissed wishing you had done it to the Fender you wanted to.

whats the worst that can happen with the fender. you spray it and it comes out crappy so you invest another $30 and lightly sand and respray a top layer again knowing where you made mistakes before and it comes out money the next time around. if youre REALLY not comfy doing it go to a local body shop and pay one of their spray jockeys an extra $20 to spray it for you in a booth and cure it for an hour or so.

either way its cheaper than the extra $150 youre gonna spen on an SX as a test canvas...and youll be getting exactly what you want..youll never pull the cash back outta the sx if you find youre not into the bass itself...thats like buying a $3k car and putting on $2k rims on it.

just my $.02 but its your money ;)
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I agree. The worst thing that can happen is that you need to resand and respray. Plus you will learn something along the way. One piece of advice is take your time and be very anal about your prep work, IE grain filling and level sanding after sanding sealer. Your short comings will be amplified in the color and clear coat stage. There is nothing worse than havin to strip and re do the prep work. Believe me I know, I've done it and learned my lesson.
 
#33
DoggBisket said:
If the OP doesn't have a lot of the finishing supplies on hand the project will cost quite a bit more than 25 bux. I did a refinish of a jazz bass this summer using ReRanch products, and the total was close to more like 100 bux. ReRanch makes great products and it is true that if you follow the instructions and take your time you will get a great result. Currently my bass body is in my utility room doing the 30 day cure waiting to be wet sanded and buffed. So here is the breakdown on the costs

$10 - Stripper and stripping supplies. The OP may have to invest in a heat gun to get the poly finish off. I used a lot of sand paper and A LOT of elbow grease

$20 - Various grades of sand paper. The OP may save here if he has this already on hand, but I needed to purchase grades from 60 grit up through 2000.

$ 8 - Oil based grain filler. The body of a Precision is most likely ash which has a very open grain and MUST be filled

$ 12 - 1 can sanding sealer.

$ 5-12 Primer. Depending on whether you use re ranch or hardware store

$ 12 x 2 - Color. You will most likey need 2 cans for this project. Red is one of the most difficult colors to get coverage with and you will need multiple coats. One can't won't be enough

$ 12 x 2 Nitro lacquer. You will want to put 2 cans of clear on MINIMUM. 3 would be even better because when it cures you need to wet sand and buff.

$ 10- Buffing compound. If the OP doesn't have a buffer then he might want to get the buffing attachments that StewMac has for hand held drills. These cost 13 bux each plus shipping.

Total cost so far around $110.


So here you have it. You don't refinish to save money. You refinish something to make it a specific way you want it.

The cost of the project can be reduced somwhat if you have other products available in your area. On the ReRanch site a lot of folks have had good results using Duplicolr Acrylic lacquer color that can be had at any Auto supply store

You can save on clear lacquer buy purchasing Deft which is about 7 bux a can. I buy it in my town at any Ace Hardware. If you have Menards in your area they have Watco lacquer for $5.99 a can, and many folks on the ReRanch site have used that with good results. For sanding sealer I bought some recently at a paint store for about 5 bux a can.
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I was just generalizing to make a point that it was cheaper than buying a brand new bass. I know it's a bit more expensive than $25 especially if you don't already have most of this stuff laying around already. :)
 
#36
EagleMoon said:
I was just generalizing to make a point that it was cheaper than buying a brand new bass. I know it's a bit more expensive than $25 especially if you don't already have most of this stuff laying around already. :)
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I completely agree. And refinishing a bass is fun, just not cheap. LOL. But once you do your first refinish you get hooked and do more than one, so the initiial investment in refinishing supplies and tools gets diluted with each successive refin.

I currently have two projects in the 30 day curing stage. My Fender American Jazz bass which I did a transparent navy blue, and a Bulldog Kit Les Paul guitar which is turning out really nice too. Next month I will be wet sanding both, buffing and putting them together.

I'm kinda keeping an eye out for my next project for next summer. I would kinda like to do an Explorer type bass or geet. I will be keeping my eye out for some fixer uppers over the winter.
 

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